Actually, there’s also an official Jitsi server (called Webconf). And there’s another Big Blue Button one. I think Visio has features not available in Jitsi though, like AI-produced transcript of the call.
… and on many of them I complain again that they made a whole new project instead of just using and contributing to Jitsi , which the FSF created expressly to counter Zoom/Teams :/
flyos@jlai.lu 3 days ago
derpgon@programming.dev 3 days ago
It is actually not hard to extend the software. I, for example, set up automatic uploading of cal recordings to a Peertube instance.
flyos@jlai.lu 3 days ago
I guess. There must be a reason for them turning to something else than Jitsi given they already had that running (and the French service responsible for that, DINUM, is surprisingly extremely open-source friendly for a state service), but I don’t know which one.
derpgon@programming.dev 3 days ago
It is always either that the license is not permissive enough, too many changes are required that upstream wouldn’t merge and its would be hard to keep rebased, showing the world that they can be absolutely independent, or not having enough experience and experts for given stack. Maybe I missed some reasons, but that’d be all I think of.
Either way, if it’s open sourced our company might switch.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
There must be a reason for them turning to something else than
You may be new to modern software development. Switching proverbial horses is massively common, usually for no benefit (or to lock people in). It’s everywhere, and especially in the corps who want that lock-in (ohai apple).
For a 2 week overlap, people on gtalk, Facebook and a regular jabber server could chat with one another as easy as addressing an email message. Then both Facebook and Google switched to their own homebrew replacement and made up some compelling-sounding, feature-laden but implausible reason. Gtalk has never sucked less than those two weeks with a working discreet client app and interoperability, though. It was actually adequate.
artyom@piefed.social 4 days ago
It’s not a new project, it’s just skinned Element. Jitsi does not have the features of Element.
flyos@jlai.lu 3 days ago
Tchap is the Element-based server. Visio is a different thing. Although you can trigger Visio from Tchap (like you can do it with Jitsi from Element).
artyom@piefed.social 3 days ago
No such thing as an Element based server. The server is Matrix. Element is the app.
flyos@jlai.lu 3 days ago
At first, I wrote “Element/Matrix” and decided to not be too pedantic… But if you want to be complete: the messaging protocol is, of course, Matrix. You could say there is actually no such thing as a Matrix server either, because it’s a protocol. The server must probably be Synapse-based, I guess. But there is an “Element-based server” in the sense that the web interface of Tchap (and phone apps) are very clearly forked from Element, which is what I meant.
Visio is based on LiveKit, which Element Call is also based on (as far as I understand). It lives outside of Tchap. The DINUM never mentioned it was based on Element Call. Do you have additional information? (Not that the difference matters much I think)