The label “Android” explicitly includes the ability to spy on you. GrapheneOS is not Android certified.
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Azrael@reddthat.com 16 hours agoNot all android spies on you. Have you ever tried GrapheneOS? It’s very secure and pro-privacy. Technically it’s not android (if you really want to nitpick), but you need a Google Pixel to run it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Yes, GrapheneOS is Android (it’s AOSP without Google Play Services and GApps, with open source replacements). It’s like what CyanogenMod was back in the day. I haven’t used Graphene; I’ve never owned a Pixel. And Graphene is only on Pixels.
I’ve used a ton of Android custom firmware… from around Ice Cream Sandwich through Lollipop — back when Android was named for desserts. My favourite CFW was LiquidSmooth based on Jellybean, based on AOKP, which was an AOSP fork that tried to be “cool.” It wasn’t quite as cool as Paranoid Android (which was fucking awesome), but it was way more stable. And CyanogenMod was the most stable but “boring” by comparison. I mean it wasn’t flashy. But LiquidSmooth was rock solid. So no, I haven’t used Graphene, but I’ve used forks/ROMs like it.
If Google Play Services is running on it, and you’re not blocking it with a firewall (not sure if you even can, but I suppose it isn’t impossible), then yes, it’s spying on you. (I do not think GrapheneOS runs Google Play Services.)
Azrael@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
Yeah. Before OneUI 8, you could set up a custom ROM on a Samsung phone too. Short of that you can disable google services. Use non google apps from F-Droid or Aurora Store. You can also use ADB to uninstall system-level APKs. Though the only way that I know of to fully de-google is to install a different OS.