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But all people aren’t of equal worth. There isn’t an official arbitrator but we get to decide for ourselves, and there isn’t a much better way to evaluate them than their actions.

The “all men created equal” in the… US consitution or declaration or whatever is complete nonsense.

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5too@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Declaring people to have a certain value relative to each other strikes me as uncomfortably close to treating people as things.

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- dualistic@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I don’t understand why only things can have different values. People have different impact on the environment, the world, etc. and what you value determines their worth on that scale. If everything is equally important to you, good or evil, then i guess everything and everyone can have the same value? I don’t really understand this paradigm.
  
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  - petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I want to point out a stronger contention in your favor: Republicans in the US are murdering their own citizens right now. I don’t think they are demonstrating much worth at the moment.
    
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Aequitas@feddit.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That is a capitalist, neoliberal attitude at best. It is particularly popular in the USA, where children are taught to evaluate reality in quantitative terms. It is extremely important for US capitalism to promote this view of humanity, because it legitimizes the major social hierarchies in this society. It also legitimizes why children are allowed to go hungry, the poor are denied medical care, and other countries are exploited. After all, they are not worth it, otherwise they would not be in this situation. In the worst case, it is therefore the basis for right-wing ideology in the USA.

But ultimately, it is a normative decision that everyone makes for themselves. I cannot convince you with arguments. If you believe that people are fundamentally worth different amounts, then probably no argument can convince you otherwise. I can only say that I am glad not to have anyone like you in my circle.

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- dualistic@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I am not sure where anything i said means quantitative evaluation. I despise capitalism, but people’s actions do have impact and i am free to evaluate them on such. For example, my measurement could be the altruism and positive impact of their actions. You have jumped to some very negative conclusions and i am glad i don’t have you in my circle.
  
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