Comment on X pulls Grok images after UK ban threat over undress tool
j4k3@piefed.world 2 days ago
It will culminate in revising “minor” to something scientific. Age is arbitrary and impossible for AI alignment to handle. Neoteny and the Tanner Scale is visually present and real. That fundamentally shifts culture in large ways because retention of childlike traits is neoteny, and the scientific definition of beauty. That is well outside the scope of Anglo cultural awareness, and will be hard for the Puritan backwardness to adjust. Like Riley Reid is so popular because of her neoteny. Even with actors like Tom Cruise, the reason people like ‘short people’ in media is the neotenous head to body proportions closer to 1 to 5. All cartoons are doing the same but exaggerated. “Minor” must be scientifically grounded better than the age when male children are large enough to carry the kit of grossly immortal mass murder orgies the halfwits call war.
Arbitrary age is irrelevant in purely visual media. Attempting to somehow mass surveil everyone to enforce it is dystopian insanity. The only solution is to be more scientifically grounded. It is ugly, and a bit ick, but whatever, those are illogical emotions fighting real justice and must be suppressed. Most countries like Germany and France have lowered their ages for minors. The only scientifically relevant ages are puberty and cognitive maturity at 25. Make it 25 and you will be supporting your kids until 25 financially, and the military will fall apart from people with the mind to question orders and think for themselves in mass.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 days ago
I don’t think it really matters how old the target is. Generating nude images of real people without their consent is fucked up no matter how old anyone involved is.
j4k3@piefed.world 2 days ago
I agree, but the tool is not to blame and never has been. This is not unique. The same thing was said with the advent of digital photo editing. Fakes predate that when people made them with film. In each instance, it is the ethics of the people that are the problem. At the deepest abstract levels, if you play out all of the implications, there is no difference between a tool and the thoughts in your head. Blaming tools is always a problem and only an illusion of a solution.
I have been able to edit photos like this since before AI, but have never done so. When I was a kid in school I drew stuff like this. So the problems is actually intent and social accountability more than anything else.
I don’t like that the issue boils down to this. I think it is ugly, but I think the alternative is far far worse. I think those that are pushing this issue are convenient idiots combined with people that are hell bent on a fascist authoritarian future that is truly horrendous. If posting dubious child nudes of me will stop fascism and WW3, what poses would you like me to strike?