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My goal as a moderator/piefed staff is to make you understand

I am not talking in a piefed-owned channel and afaik you have no authority to give me “options” here. You may not like how I expressed my opinion, but that doesn’t mean that I need to agree or comply.

i think the best way to change people is telling them about the fediverse IRL,

You do know that I’m running a hosting provider for the Fediverse since 2019, right? I’ve done a lot more than just complained about the state of current projects. I’ve done my share of “IRL” marketing, promoted FOSS alternatives to companies, set up demo instances for prospective customers, set up free accounts for my friends, put up a Matrix room for my college buddies to show them an alternative to WhatsApp…

When I talk about the shortcomings of the Fediverse and the lack of ambition of the developers, it’s because I’ve already got lots of people in here, but the overwhelming majority of them ended up going back to the proprietary platforms because there simply isn’t enough interests/interesting people. It tries so hard to reject mainstream and “normies” that it ends up feeling hostile to them. The majority of people are not interested in being lectured 24/7 by patronizing tweenies.

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Snoopy@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

You may not like how I expressed my opinion, but that doesn’t mean that I need to agree or comply.

Well that’s part of the problem and i’m just doing my job. I don’t expect you to change that quickly. It’s not my thought alone

When I talk about the shortcomings of the Fediverse and the lack of ambition of the developers, it’s because I’ve already got lots of people in here, but the overwhelming majority of them ended up going back to the proprietary platforms because there simply isn’t enough interests/interesting people. It tries so hard to reject mainstream and “normies” that it ends up feeling hostile to them. The majority of people are not interested in being lectured 24/7 by patronizing tweenies.

Well i had the same experience and i’m older than twenty year old. :)

My role isn’t to force them using free software or being part of the fediverse movement. I present software, show them how it works. I contact association, governement…explain them the problem, show newpapers, present solutions and it’s up to them to change their habits. We can’t change people habits except if governement decide to takes actions to protect our freedom and rights.

You don’t have to take it personally. They prefer big tech, so let them use big tech.

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- rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  They prefer big tech, so let them use big tech.
  
  It’s not about “preferring big tech”. It’s all the societal harm that big tech causes on everyone because their source of profit is not aligned with the interests of their direct customers.
  
  I don’t care about “changing habits”. I just don’t want people that I care about being exploited and manipulated like that.
  
  I will say something that I know will be grossly misunderstood, but I will try to make the case: I want to have influencers on the Fediverse, I want to see corporations setting up their instances and pushing their stupid corporate PR bullshit. I want to see phone companies selling data plans with ActivityPub accounts. I want to have the equivalent of LinkedIn lunatics, and personal coaches and all that crap that one can find on Instagram/TikTok/Facebook.
  
  You know why? Because that would mean that the Fediverse is relevant. It would mean that we have enough people here that it can not be ignored anymore.
  
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  - Snoopy@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    I don’t care about “changing habits”. I just don’t want people that I care about being exploited and manipulated like that
    
    If ya want people to stop using big tech, you have to change their habits. You can’t change it, they have built their network, found old friends…maybe one day but most of them aren’t attracted by the fediverse.
    
    I want to have the equivalent of LinkedIn lunatics, and personal coaches and all that crap that one can find on Instagram/TikTok/Facebook.
    
    How do you handle this part with the above one (exploited, manipulated) ? I don’t want them. I will leave or ask for defederation.
    
    I enjoy this place as it is. It doesn’t need to be bigger. Once you remove it, i think plenty people will leave and create their own forum elsewhere as we did for Reddit.
    
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    rglullis@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    How do you handle this part with the above one (exploited, manipulated) ?
    
    It’s one thing to have systemic corruption and exploitation (what Big Tech does), it’s another to have endemic issues (bad actors, small-scale scammers, etc). The former can not be neutralized by individual/localized action, the latter can.
    
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