Comment on How the AI ‘bubble’ compares to history

RockBottom@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• kikutwo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Huh? Rail handles about 40% of long distance freight in the US.

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  • RockBottom@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But I want to know the tech that will replace 60 % of AI.

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    • kikutwo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe quantum dunno

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Like, the automobile? It looks like the boom in the UK they were talking about was in the 1840s.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania

  Railway Mania was a stock market bubble in the railway industry of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in the 1840s.

  There were primitive automobiles earlier, but the mass market automobile didn’t come around for a long time after that, and then it’ll have taken longer to get substantial marlet penetration.

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  www.bbc.com/news/uk-42182497

  It runs a bit off the edge — I don’t know how far back they had licensing.

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  But extrapolating from those lines, I’d guess that annual distance traveled in motor vehicles on roads surpassed rail only in the 1940s or so, about a hundred years later.

  That’s probably outside the investment horizon of people investing in the 1840s — in evaluating whether an investment is worthwhile, they won’t be considering returns a century hence.

  That being said, it is possible to maybe consider freight rail, and it’s possible that that qoeks out differently. The US doesn’t use much passenger rail in 2025, but it does do quite a bit of freight rail; the two can be decoupled.

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  • RockBottom@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean a hundred years is not much for a technology your government decides to build society around.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, in that kind of timeframe, there were pretty major shifts in transportation.

      For a long, long time, ships up rivers and along coasts was the way serious transportation happened.

      Then we had the canal-building era in the US. I assume that the UK did the same.

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      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_age

      Technology archaeologists and industrial historians date the American Canal Age from 1790 to 1855[1] based on momentum and new construction activity, since many of the older canals, although limited by locks that restricted boat sizes below the most economic capacities[b], nonetheless continued in service well into the twentieth century.[c]

      By 1855, canals were no longer the civil engineering work of first resort, for it was nearly always better—cheaper to build a railroad above ground than it was to dig a watertight ditch 6–8 feet (2–3 m) deep and provide it with water and make annual repairs for ice and freshet damages—even though the cost per ton mile on a canal was often cheaper in an operational sense, canals couldn’t be built along hills and dales, nor backed into odd corners, as could a railroad siding.

      So that was maybe sixty, seventy years before rail was really displacing it.

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• gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Laughs in European

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