this leads to a culture shift in the country, where islam is getting a foothold.
The experience in the UK is that Muslim immigrants’ level of religious observance (e.g., mosque attendance) and degree of religious conservatism both decline based on how many generations the immigrant’s family has been in the country. Out-marriage (with respect to both religion and ethnicity) also increases with each successive generation. There’s an issue with a small minority of second-generation youth becoming extremists in reaction to difficulty in assimilating, but the overall trend goes the other way.
And the right’s solution is to add more barriers to assimilation. That makes it look to me like their goal is not to solve the problem, but to be sure they have a steady supply of marginalized scapegoats.
Dojan@pawb.social 3 days ago
Yeah see, I don’t agree on this. I grew up in poverty here in Sweden. For reference, I was born in Stockholm in the 90s, lived in Södermalm for quite a while. Not exactly an easy place to live on subsistence minimum, but things have changed for the worse since then - I don’t blame migration for this either. Our housing problem isn’t a problem of scarcity, it’s a problem of greed.
I grew up with a single parent, with a very rocky employment record. Living on welfare is complete ass, and sometimes you won’t get it even if it’s entirely necessary. I know a bloke who lived out in the middle of nowhere. Rent was cheap, but he had no public transit access. Ended up on hard times, and struggled finding a job. He owned an old Volvo that the social services deemed worth 15k, and so at one point they decided that he should sell his only means of transport to any potential place of employment. Thus his only option was to do that, and move somewhere more expensive putting him in a worse economic situation.
Living on welfare is stressful. It doesn’t matter if it’s from socialen or försäkringskassan. It’s fickle, and it’s demeaning. You’re looked down upon as if you’re a leech in a system that exists to help people in your position. A system we all pay into to help people in that position. Including people who are in that position. You don’t stop paying taxes just because you’re on welfare, that’s coming out of your bottom-line as well.
If you’d rather live on welfare than work a shitty job, do it. You see this sort of argument all the time, but it really isn’t as fun or relaxing as you think it is.
That’s not to say that there aren’t people like this, it just has nothing to do with migration. It’s a case of the bourgeoisie shitting on the working class and pointing at migrants as the problem. Go back far enough in time, before we had a visible migrant minority, and this stupid talking point was still being made.
Again, you clearly didn’t read what I said, because the continuation of “it’s not even just ‘ew brown people’” was…
The implication you’ve missed here is that the Finnish immigrants were white, and xenophobes found ways to be arses about them anyway. Those same xenophobes would todaWe have an opportunity to be open and welcoming to people, y point at Finns as “the good kind” of immigrant, because of a “cultural overlap” or whatever. If you shrunk the world down to just a single village, the xenophobes would bemoan the people on the other side of it.
No, we don’t. We dabbled with eugenics on the native population in the 40s. Women got a general right to vote in 1919, which is only about 100 years ago. Married women were myndigförklarade first 1921. Abortion wasn’t made legal until 1975. Fags like me were considered mentally ill until 1979. That wasn’t even 50 years ago. Our most recent overturn of a eugenics law was in 2013, so in a couple of years it’ll be old enough to get a driver’s license.
I’m not praising Islam. I don’t think religious dogma should have a spot in modern society. One of my exes fled to Sweden because of persecution. He was captured by the regime in his home country, and tortured. His back is covered in scars.
The religious extremism and zealotry isn’t a reflection of the culture at large, just how Trump and the insane far-right in the U.S. isn’t a representation of the average populace. It’s corruption. The perspective of the Middle East and Africa as some kind of undeveloped, brutish, uncultured backwaters are based in European imperialism and white supremacy. It’s just not historically true.