Sorry friend, if this is all news to you, I am more than happy to source anything you want me to. Could you pick 3 claims that you don’t have sufficient evidence for? I will happily provide you with sources.
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Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 hours agoWow. There is so much make-believe bullshit in there, that I don’t even know how to respond to it all. I would just love to see you go back through that comment, and attach sources for any of your claims.
I am no fan of the US, but I at least have the intellectual integrity to not just make shit up, to satisfy my pre-existing biases. Good grief, dude. Have you no shame?
frisbird@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Nah, that’s ok, buddy…your firehose did the job. I don’t have the energy to sift through all that, and really have no inclination to defend the US. I think it’s fairly sad that you’re trying to put me in a position where you think should have to, in order to make a point.
That’s pretty disingenuous, given the fact that I’ve repeatedly told you I don’t side with them. So, if you insist on putting me on their side of this conversation, then I’m out. Gaslight someone else.
frisbird@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Sorry you feel that way. The reality of the situation is that the US is a violent threat to every single nation on Earth and every administration since Obama has publicly declared a military focus on Asia. If you think China has no need to defend the geographical features most critical to its national defense, you can just say that. It’s not gaslighting. As you said, you already don’t support the US, so you don’t have to defend it. You just have to acknowledge that you’re in the wrong when you say that simply because the US has not done any overt piracy or committed war crimes in the SCS this is not sufficient to conclude that China has no legitimate security interests in controlling it.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Man, see you should try looking at this conversation from an external perspective. I say one thing…you make it all about the US. I say something else…you turn it back to being all about the US. I point out that you keep making everything all about the US…and you find a way to blame the US again.
If I were a relationship counselor, my advice to you, would be that you should stop blaming other people for your problems, and start taking responsibility for your choices. Because as long as you are stuck in the mindset that everything you do, is someone else’s fault, you are never going to be able to move on with your life and grow as a person.
But, what do I know? The US is terrible, so obviously China has no choice about anything. It’s inevitable that as long as the US exists, they will have no choice but to constantly react defensively to US influence. It’s pretty pathetic, that no one in charge of that country has any free will, to even try and do better than that. Right? US influence is simply too powerful.
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 12 hours ago
"Wow, there is so much that goes against my pre-existing biases that i will pretend that it is somehow difficult to analyze. I would just love for you to waste your time linking sources that i have almost certainly been linked before so that i can dismiss them out of hand without reading them.
i am no fan of the us, despite believing everything they say about their enemies, but at least i have the intellectual laziness to simply call you a liar despite stating easily verifiable facts. good grief dude. do you condemn Hamas?
frisbird@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
I forget just how propagandized we Anglos are, and how propagandized I was for at least 30 years. It’s entirely possible that if Archangel keeps engaging I might be able to teach them one thing and if I can do that, it’s worth it
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 11 hours ago
zoidberg saluting 1
good luck and godspeed comrade
frisbird@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Mission failed