Comment on Noise-canceling robots to 'mute' loud conversations in cafe | What if we told you that we can actually silence a noisy table right next to us in a café?

• Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I get what you’re saying, but what I was trying to get at was how a lot of these shiny cool things lately seem to be a way to easily package unwanted things. Google’s new AI integration openly reads and analyses everything you store and write in Google services, to assist you. People would be up in arms about slapping microphones around in public, but a public noise cancellation system that requires dozens of microphones constantly listening is just really cool.

  There are easier ways, but the fact that it’s cool sidesteps almost all the resistance. Same way facial recognition cameras covering the UK is talked about as method to only catch criminals, not something that tracks everyone that steps outside their home.

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  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think your Google example is a good one, but for a different reason.
    Google was already analyzing everything you stored and wrote in their services; they didn’t need to use AI as a cover for doing that, they just did it. They didn’t even need to hide it or pretend they weren’t.

    Yeah, people probably wouldn’t like microphones everywhere. Unless you just call it a security camera, and then we don’t notice them.
    Why invent a novel dynamic noise cancelation algorithm and robot platform when plastic dome technology is so well understood?

    People are cheap and lazy, and even when they’re being shitty they’re not going to do more than they have to, or overly complicate things.

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    • Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They didn’t even need to hide it or pretend they weren’t.

      That’s the thing though, they did hide it and pretend they weren’t. Techies never trusted them, but the average user viewed google drive as a private cloud storage. Now, Bard is explicitly reading everything, training off of everything you have, and it’s being fronted as a step forward.

      Most commercial security cameras don’t record sound, and most of the visible ones are dummy cameras just to make people wary. And again, there’s a difference between a single microphone twenty feet off the ground, and dozens perfectly recording every word every single person speaks in the cafe.

      I’m not making the argument that noise cancellation tech is being made so that people can be recorded, I’m making the argument that if noise cancellation tech works, they will 100% use it to capture high quality recordings of every spoken word to sell as a side benefit.

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