Comment on After viral interview, Palantir launches neurodivergent fellowship

• sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Did you just make this up?

  I’m going by the parts of the words: neuro meaning of the mind/brain and divergent meaning deviating from normal. I don’t see why “neurodivergent” wouldn’t include all of ADHD, autism, personality disorders, or mental illness as these are all brain differences.

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Neurodivergent includes all those categories except the disorders or illnesses. Here’s why:

    Things like psychopathy are caused by structural differences in the brain that make sufferers incapable of experiencing the same set of emotions as most people. Many negative behaviors are caused by lack of inhibition or empathy for others.

    People with autism and adhd process information differently and respond to the world differently as a result. In severe cases this can lead to an inability to engage but will generally result more in inappropriate engagement.

    Behavioral health conditions are a mix of psychological and neurological issues that require a wide variety of interventions.

    These are very different things.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I decided to just look it up for myself. According to what I found, it isn’t a medical term and doesn’t have a medical definition, so means whatever people say it means. Which is I guess how language always works, it is just that it is a new word with roots that imply a broader meaning.

      The lists generally exclude personality disorders, but this doesn’t seem logical to me, although I am not a neurologist. I thought all brain differences arise or manifest as differences in the brain structure.

      uhhospitals.org/…/what-does-it-mean-to-be-neurodi…

      www.merriam-webster.com/…/neurodivergent

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      • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m happy to hear that you looked up some of this for yourself. I figured that it was the definitions that were catching you more than the concepts.

        The DSM has some very odd references in it. For instance, “retarded” is a technical definition that exists and is a possible diagnosis even though society has long moved passed that concept. Mental health is weird.

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    • Cybersteel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I do bad things all the time so does that make me a psychopath? Sure I feel bad all the time and bury my guilt under copious amounts of alcohol but it still works don’t it.

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      • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        No. You feel bad which means you are capable of empathy.

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes, they are making this up.

    From the point of view of a person without ADHD, an ADHD person is almost retarded. Can’t concentrate, achieve goals.

    Or BAD - jumping from a depression to a psychosis, sometimes they are like a wounded deer hiding in their room, sometimes they are running around planning to blitzkrieg the planet, what is this if not a defect. (There’s one woman, I wonder if I should reach her or if I’m having my own BAD psychosis even thinking about that. She’s also not the only woman who can be affected strongly by that decision. In other words, I’m inadequate and unable to control myself and clearly see the reality behind impulses.)

    Or, well, an autistic person struggling with hints and cues and aesopean language and unable to deduct reality from superficial signs, - from the point of view of those who can they are pretty much defective. (Also me.)

    They are just bunching together a few of Ds as “just different” and the rest as defects. “Disorder” is not a word meaning “just different”. It does mean a defect.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Please don’t use slurs :(

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      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sorry, but you might find that people really willing to hurt you will manage to say it without any slurs.

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