Comment on It just keeps getting worse - Firefox to "evolve into a modern AI browser"

• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Their statement is “we’re incorporating AI into your browser”. What “agenda” do you think this author has? Other than informing users?

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• sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That has not at all been our lived experience so far.

  Every week it seems like there is a new AI feature snuck in that we have to tell each other about and disable.

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• AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The problem is, it’s not unobtrusive.

  When I right click and I instantly get an option silently added to the list that sends data to an AI model hosted somewhere, which I’ve accidentally clicked due to muscle memory, it’s not good just because there’s also the option there to disable it. When I start up my browser after an update and I am instantly given an open sidebar asking me to pick an AI model to use, that’s obtrusive and annoying to have to close and disable.

  Mozilla has indicated they do not want to make these features opt-in, but opt-out. The majority of Mozilla users do not want these features by default, so the logical option is to make them solely opt-in. But Mozilla isn’t doing that. Mozilla is enabling features by default, without consent, then only taking them away when you tell them to stop.

  The approach Mozilla is taking is like if you told a guy you weren’t interested in dating him, but instead of taking that as a "no." he took it as a "try again with a different pickup line in 2 weeks" and never, ever stopped no matter what you tried. It doesn’t matter that you can tell him to go away now if he’ll just keep coming back.

  Mozilla does not understand consent, and they are violating the consent of their users every time they push an update including AI features that are opted-in by default.

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  • RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i don’t want it either, but AFAIK they’re local models so the data didn’t go anywhere

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    • AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They don’t use local models yet, at least not for their existing AI chatbot sidebar feature.
      https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot

      When you use a chatbot, you are agreeing to that provider’s privacy policies and terms of use. Each chatbot provider has their own terms of use and privacy policies. View the privacy policies and terms for providers in Firefox.

      Some chatbots are more privacy-respecting than others.

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• gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If it’s installed and I have to turn it off, then it’s intrusive. Don’t bullshit me

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