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But post the Banderite and US Supported(theguardian.com/…/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-su…)coup government banned Russian in the school system(1/3 of Ukrainian’s are Russian first language speakers) and start streets renaming after Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera) and Azov and the other far-right group were killing civilians in the Donbass prior to Russia’s ‘little green men’ entering Ukraine

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LovelyMover@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
This is rubbish. They couldn’t join NATO, russia had invaded them, as well as a bunch of other countries I might add. This special operation was to stop them joining the EU.

A failing dictatorship cannot have a neighbour have free elections, vote in who they want, & be economically prosperous. Thats the beginning, middle & end of it.

All this bs about nato this & nato that is a lie & you’re either a troll, delusional, or both.

Dictatorship needs an enemy to hide its failed corruption.

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- ClathrateG@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  The pro-western proxies in Ukraine were vying to join NATO long before the Russian invasion as early as the 90s
  
  I agree with you on many points if not every detail, hence why the US had to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych government theguardian.com/…/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-su… www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUCCR4jAS3Y
  
  To think this conflict is completely insular and that geo-politics and the worlds most powerful(and implicitly anti-Russian) military alliance didn’t, doesn’t and will not play a major hand in the run-up, waging and aftermath of the war is either incredibly naïve, wilfully ignorant, delusional or the product of a propagandised mind to whom ‘vibes’ are more important that objective fact and reality
  
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  - LovelyMover@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    So you’ve moved away from it simply being NATO, to now saying its a vassal moving away & politically & economically, which is exactly what I said. I didn’t say the “west” had nothing to do with it, you’re saying that.
    
    So how about you make your mind up?
    
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    ClathrateG@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    So you’ve moved away from it simply being NATO, to now saying its a vassal moving away & politically & economically
    
    Why do you see these thing as mutually exclusive? they aren’t, NATO is an arm of the US empire. My position as been consistent throughout this conversation.
    
    The democratically elected Ukrainian government was moving economically towards Russia, the US used its influence to coup that government and install one that was more aligned with their interest and against Russia’s
    
    All this bs about nato this & nato that is a lie & you’re either a troll, delusional, or both.
    
    I’ll reiterate if you don’t think NATO(the world’s largest offensive military alliance that is implicitly anti-Russia) didn’t, doesn’t and will not play a major role in the run-up to, waging of and aftermath of the war is either incredibly naïve, wilfully ignorant, delusional or the product of a propagandised mind to whom ‘vibes’ are more important that objective fact and reality
    
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- cornishon@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  A failing dictatorship cannot have a neighbour have free elections, vote in who they want, & be economically prosperous. Thats the beginning, middle & end of it.
  
  By vote in who they want you mean that: m.youtube.com/watch?v=LUCCR4jAS3Y?
  
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