Comment on AI-focused tech firms locked in ‘race to the bottom’, warns MIT professor

mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You might be able to assert they are full of shit after hearing the arguments. Accusing them of being fascist for not agreeing with you is extremely intolerant and authoritarian aka facist.

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  • mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Being anti foss is being anti freedom, full stop

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    • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the thing is that you don’t want to become the thing you are fighting. you can be right in every case, as long as it’s in a case by case basis. it would be different if you explain why the arguments are bad faith arguments or why they are facists, that is also perfectly fine.

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      • mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There are things that are just true like that, like racism or slavery don’t have a case by case basis where they’re bad, but that’s getting to be an extreme comparison here, just saying absolute statements can be true like that. When is FOSS not about freedom?

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think it’s pretty valid to point out that somebody who is against free software has an authoritarian posture.

    Granted, the use of fascist might be incorrect (it’s a quite specific autoritarian ideology) and suffers from it’s overuse in a sloganized way (i.e. it’s commonly parroted by mindless political parrots), but in this case it’s not a bad shortcut to pass the idea.

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    • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think using that term is fully regressing to tribalism. I believe that in some cases we can reach the goal by building consensus with the opposition. I’m sure we can see the world with more than 1 bit of resolution.

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      • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, I do agree with that point of view.

        Consider, however, that had you made it immediatelly in that original response as you did just now it would’ve come out as a perfectably rational and acceptable take rather than as just angry.

        Whilst I understand being angry at people throwing “fascist” around like a slogan, I find an angry response to be counter-productive, not as much for the tribalist parrots who normally throw slogans around like that (those are beyond saving, IMHO) but for the audience.

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