Comment on The cloud is just someone else's computer, but the internet is just someone else's network

• Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Oh I get how it would all work, I’m not into sharing my network.

  See, I’m struggling to think that you do. You’re not sharing your network with anyone. You’re just hooking your uplink into someone else’s network, who will take as much (or more, given how fucky current ISPs are) care to keep you and your neighbors from talking to each other without your own config letting it happen.

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  • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    At the risk of being a contrarian, why would I want to hook my uplink to someone else’s network, or vice versa?

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      why would I want to hook my uplink to someone else’s network

      Well, the biggest reason I could think of is that you want to access the Internet.

      Your local network is only as good as the services you run, and most people don’t self host. If you choose not to hook your uplink to your ISPs network, you’re not gonna be able to do all that much.

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      • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        From the OP (emphasis mine):

        but I dream of a day when everyone’s wifi router meshes with all the other routers in the neighborhood which is connected to all the other neighborhoods in the city which is connected via repeaters to all the other cities and so on. Sure it would be slow, but we’d be communicating on our own system that only costs as much as the hardware you run it on.

        I already hook my uplink to a network called my ISP. It’s fast, it delivers everything I need, that’s why I pay for it. Why would I want to hook my uplink to BillyBob’s network a mile up or down the road either way? Now, I realize there is no ‘I’ in team, but there is a big ass ‘ME’, so the idea first has to pass the ‘me’ test as selfish as that may sound. Reduced speeds don’t sound like a selling point, at least to me. Communal communications doesn’t sound like a selling point, at least to me.

        Yes, I get it. At this point, 80%+ of 8.4 billion people are inexorably tied together via the internet, no matter what ISP you use. However, the current system delivers fast speeds and access to more data than I could consume in many lifetimes. So, I’m still left struggling with the ‘why’ part.

        So, if you would, help me out with the ‘why’ part.

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      • crash_thepose@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Can someone give me a “explain to me like I’m five” to the debate here? I’d like to learn 😀

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    • lka1988@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think you might be misunderstanding something here, because this is already how your current ISP works.

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