Comment on US proposals to end Russia's war involve Ukraine giving up land, some weapons, sources say
huppakee@piefed.social 4 weeks agoI am so glad there are some influencial Europeans trying to keep him from choosing Putins side. If everbody would’ve let Trump do whatever he wanted we’d all be learning Russian right now.
Mihies@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Don’t hold your breath in EU, though. We bend our knees quickly. It’s just fear that makes us sick with Ukraine.
huppakee@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Totally true, and lot of bad forces within the EU too. But also good forces, who try took keep Trump on our side. They fail from time to time, but without us weapon supplies Ukraine would have a lot more casualties. But I am not blind and know there could have been a lot more supplies. If Europe helped more, there would have been a lot less casualties. I didn’t mean to write a ‘eu good, us bad’-type of comment.
tomiant@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Lots of bad forces within the EU directly funded and aided by Russia. THIS is the big point. Everyone thinks the shit that started happening in the EU for the past three decades or so is completely organic and that our democracies are intact.
They’ve been under systematic assault by the Russians as part of their stated god damned plans. All of these right wing extremists and right wing governments have had some Russian special sauce fed to them.
Mihies@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Yep, Slovene far right SDS got a ton of money through a good Russian fellow Orban.
huppakee@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Not only Europeans get that special sauce, remember the first time Trump was elected people pointed to Russia? Still makes sense to me.