Comment on YSK that in 1994, Ukraine voluntarily gave up nuclear weapons. Europe and the United States promised they would defend Ukraine if it was ever threatened.

Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think you overestimate that number, but that’s not the thing, the thing is slow walking aid just dragged everything out.

  Some saybit was Donald’s gift to putin, so putin could “finish” quickly, but Biden dlow walked things too, like forbidding the use of american weapons on russians depending were they were.

  A quick piwerful response was what we all wanted but didn’t get so here we are.

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  • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The deliberately slow is for upholding a testing ground for USA/Russia/China military industry developing their drone & AI warfare. Maybe the powers that be will use that to eliminate us rest when we’re not useful enough anymore. Skynet by fascists

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re benefiting from it but I’d treat it as a conspiracy if someone said it was orchestred in some way.

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  • Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sorry, I guess we are being cheap, only contributing almost as much as everyone else combined.

    It’s always “the USA is bad” until someone needs something, and suddenly doing as much as everyone else combined isn’t enough.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did you just conveniently forgot humanitarian aid?

      And the whole call USA in need, from a NATO standpoint, it has only been the other way around, and we were there for them. We (Europe) also let the hard power plus soft power to the USA after WW2. They have benefited enormously from that internationally, economically… We also have been buying USA weapon systems for enormous quantities.

      The deal? If we need you, USA, you’ll help us against Russia (I don’t think there is another threat model).

      First try: slow walking and half siding with Russia…

      Well it seems like the party is over and good old europe is coming back.

      Interesting times.

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      • Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m guessing English is a second language for you.

        We (Europe) also let the hard power plus soft power to the USA after WW2

        So if I’m reading this right, in your opinion, war torn Europe was generous in “letting” the USA supply aid after WW2?

        They have benefited enormously from that internationally, economically…

        And yeah, that’s kind of the point, do you think any country in the world sends the GDP of a small country to another nation, purely out of the goodness of their heart?

        half siding with Russia…

        I sure hope you aren’t talking about me…

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• quick_snail@feddit.nl ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol wut. US “intelligence” is responsible for misleading people into war how many times?

  And how many people died because of it? Hundreds of thousanda of lives or millions?

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• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In a time when a person working full-time can’t even afford groceries, we should be involved in exactly zero wars abroad.

  I hate this country.

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