Everyone’s wrong here. New users should try to look up some basics, and existing advanced users should tolerate beginner difficulties and not say anything if they can’t support and welcome the beginners. It would be perfectly acceptable to have a self hosted noobs community so advanced users are isolated from noobs if they want to be.
Frankly, this has been a longstanding barrier for me in adopting Linux and self hosting. Communities can be really unhelpful. It’s not like hobbyists are starting with reading an organised textbook. Knowledge is picked up piecemeal and sometimes there are glaring holes in beginner knowledge. For Linux adoption and self hosting, AI has helped me a hell of a lot. I wouldn’t be able to do any of this without AI. In my mind, this is a perfect use for AI. I can ask my dumb beginner questions without annoying AI, and it’s a very low risk situation for when AI gets things completely wrong and it doesnt really matter much. Also I find it amusing that I used the big tech company’s tools to move to platforms that deny big tech companies from exploiting my data, which is now safely local.
bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Eh, the issue with using AI with something like a self-hosted setup is that it lacks nuance and is most likely sourced from all the stack overflow answers without including, again, any context that might be involved.
This leads to situations where it “works,” but potentially in a way with glaring issues that you would otherwise get from this community.
That said, I understand that “advanced” users here can be uptight about things that they believe to be a foregone conclusion, which is where the whole “learning” aspect is what we all need: both learning to self-host “better” and learning to help others.
cRazi_man@europe.pub 9 hours ago
A lot of things I’ve done may well be very poor practice. But at least I’ve got this thing off the ground and am learning from there. If I couldn’t make a start then I wouldn’t go down this rabbit hole at all in the first place. Without trying, implementing, breaking and making mistakes…it’s not like I would have browsed Stack Overflow for months. I have no programming or PC qualifications. Self teaching ain’t easy. AI did a lot more heavy lifting initially. Now it mostly double checks my YAML draft and makes sense of error logs so I can be pointed in the right direct to know where to even start reading.
bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Fair enough! My own experience has so far been less helpful, due to it hallucinating config based on what I’m asking and if my use case is possible, which made me turn more to perusing docs and source code 🙃