Comment on Passkeys Explained: The End of Passwords
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 weeks agoI’m not really concerned about the security of it. Moreso the inconvenience…
Honestly, convenience is security (change-my-mind lol) insofar as it measurably impacts rate of user adoption/adherence and thus outcomes.
It’s the annoyance you describe that leads most users to forego opt-in 2FA until it’s forced on them, for example.
Device-based PassKeys are the only near-universal mass-adoptable solution to that problem of convenience that I’ve heard proposed so far, although implementation has lagged until very recently.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Not at all. Typically they’re opposites. But I understand what you’re trying to say. More convenience leads to better security.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If it’s more convenient to be insecure than secure, users will pick insecure every time. There’s a reason there are so many bad password in the top passwords in breach dumps.
I have to tell myself every time I go through some of my login flows that inconvenience to me means more so to an attacker, but most people don’t have an adversarial mindset and just want it to work.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
User inconvenience is not at all the same thing as security.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No, but the two tens to be correlated.
Example, MFA authentication is a security feature, but inconvenient as shit with low or no lifetime. Same complaints about short lived sessions on app sites. Especially when every login requires MFA…
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Yeah you get it. I just have a bone to pick with colleagues that embrace anti-user methods needlessly. Convenience = security is a “slow = fast” type of spiel.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Don’t forget the intermediary
Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Haha that’s the one ;)