@vhstape I'm expecting cloud hosting services to slowly creep up as people get hooked on them - I spent about $150 on a #BananaPiR3 and I think about £80 on a #DellMicro to run Proxmox on (Which I am failing at spectacularly) - There are several reasons why I think its useful - I think we are starting to see the fragility and lack of control that we have with some of these services but also Opensource is slowly pushing back the smoke and mirrors - There is a part of me that wonders whether if something such as this developed ISPs might provide basic versions of then as edge devices - or people might accept that they buy them as the accept a couple hundred quid on an an Alexa or GoogleHome.