Most of those still rely on some company to host a server, except Briar, and in practice most Briar users are still relying on companies to access Tor to connect.
They are more robust, not perfect.
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Ulrich@feddit.org 17 hours agoCwtch. XMPP. Matrix. SimpleX. Quiet. Delta Chat. Arcane Chat. Revolt. Briar. Meshtastic. etc. etc. etc.
mjr@infosec.pub 17 hours ago
Ulrich@feddit.org 17 hours ago
None of them require a company to host a server. That was my entire point.
mjr@infosec.pub 17 hours ago
Explain how you’d use Delta Chat without a server, please? I may have misunderstood its need for a mailserver when I tried it.
Ulrich@feddit.org 17 hours ago
I didn’t say without a server, I said without a company-hosted server.
a4ng3l@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Aren’t most of those requiring dedicated setup? How does that work without a pre-existing communication channel such as email to prep for them? You walk to every party you need to integrate?
Ulrich@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Sorry, I don’t understand the words you’re using. Some of them are peer to peer. Some of them use servers which can be hosted by individuals. Some of them work locally over Bluetooth or WiFi.
a4ng3l@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Damn. They didn’t seem so wild especially compared to the flow of yours. All mediums / techs you listed are complex technologies that take efforts to setup. Compared to the ubiquitousness of email. How do you propose to make that as available to the baseline human being?
Ulrich@feddit.org 16 hours ago
Email is much more difficult to configure than most of these services. Some of them require no configuration at all. You just open the app, type in the recipient’s address, and Bob’s your uncle.
For others, it’s already available through community projects like AdminForge and Disroot.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 16 hours ago
The “baseline human being” can easily set up most of those.