Comment on ProtonMail Logged IP Address of French Activist; Should You Be Worried About Your Privacy?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks agoNow you’re comparing apples to oranges? Is that what you do when your position is untenable?
Comment on ProtonMail Logged IP Address of French Activist; Should You Be Worried About Your Privacy?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks agoNow you’re comparing apples to oranges? Is that what you do when your position is untenable?
Dojan@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
So Proton’s no-log policy is an apple and Mullvad’s no-log policy is an orange, is what you’re saying?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
No, I’m saying that you’re comparing email to a VPN. You’re not stupid, you know it’s a bad comparison, which is why you didn’t compare Mullvad to ProtonVPN, because you know your argument would fall apart immediately.
Dojan@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I’m comparing Mullvad (a company) to Proton (a company) not their products. They both have a no-log policy (that’s a company policy) only one is actually no logs, and the other is “we sometimes log.” I don’t think you’re stupid either, so I don’t get what’s not coming through>
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
You’re being dishonest, is what’s not getting through.
Mullvad doesn’t log because their product is built from the ground up to not be capable of connecting users to their activity. Email was invented before true anonymity on the internet was even a concept. To date, nobody has developed an email solution that is incapable of logging its users when forced to by the government. Both companies have a no log policy, and both follow that policy, insofar as it isn’t breached by force by a legal order from their government. If Mullvad had a system where that was possible, they would have given up that information when they were raided, because they would have had no fucking choice. But like Proton, their VPN is incapable of logging access.
Comparing email to a VPN is about as dishonest and bad faith as anyone can get. Email was never intended to be anonymous, and VPNs were. You know this, which is why you compared Proton’s email to Mullvad’s VPN. If you had compared the two VPNs from both companies, your argument would have immediately fallen apart because neither are capable of logging users without completely rewriting the entire system from the ground up. Your argument is no different than comparing a hippo to a bird, then complaining because the hippo can’t fly.