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PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 1 day agoI’m sure there were social democrats in 1933 complaining that communists weren’t getting in line behind the left-most faction of the NSDAP.
Replace NSDAP with the centrist coalition to defeat NSDAP and this is unironically 100% correct. The communists were furious at the very suggestion, and were still fistfighting in the streets with SPD supporters while then plans were being drawn up for both of them to go into the camps. How is this your example lol?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 17 hours ago
Centrists held power since the start of the Weimar republic and spent the last 10 years working with the brownshirts to murder socialists.
The centrist’s candidate did win btw, they proceeded to staff the government with nazis who easily organized a coup.
PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 15 hours ago
I’m going to make a FAQ entry for this or something lol
Long story short, no. The centrist’s candidate did win, no thanks to the communists, and Hitler with his growing street army was held at bay until the centrist’s candidate died, and then long story short the end came soon after, with the social democrats still denouncing Hitler in the hauntingly half-empty parliament with the communists after the communists had been disappeared from it. For all the good it did. But at least they were able to recognize that Hitler was the enemy. The communists could not. They were still holding anti-social-democrat rallies, and sometimes collaborating with the Nazis. Also, so was Stalin! Beyond the obvious military alliance he was also selling out German communists (who were loyally doing their best to destroy German civil society on his orders) to Hitler’s secret police, because of course he was.
No less a person then Leon Trotsky explained this in a good amount of detail and was able to see it coming even at the time and tried to prevent it (again, for all the good it did). I’ll let the World Socialist Web Site explain:
https://www.wsws.org/en/special/library/foundations-ger/10.html
I have recently unlocked a new lore tablet wherein I learned that many of the Lemmy communists also hate Trotsky for some reason. I thought he was fine, he was one of the few Bolsheviks who seemed like he did more thinking than killing and so I liked him (what little I know of him). But I guess it makes sense, since Stalin thought he was enough of an enemy to hunt him down and have him killed. And a lot of the Lemmy communists seem to like Stalin? For some reason? I still don’t understand that part. How it is that “Gavin Newsom is abusive to the homeless people” (which, he is) represents a reason not to support him even against literal Hitler, I have trouble wrapping my head around “Stalin killed millions of people and allied with the Nazis and fought alongside them” being not a deal-breaker, but I don’t think there is that much critical thinking being applied to it TBH. Where the affinity for Stalin comes from, I genuinely do not know, but if you want to enlighten me I would be happy to hear.