Comment on Terraforming Mars Publisher Calls AI "Too Powerful" Not to Use
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year agoThe issue is training on “licensed materials”.
People usually say that's the issue, until you show them that it's possible to generate images and whatnot from models trained on "fully licensed" data. Then they come up with some other reason why evil AI is awful and evil. I've been involved in these debates for a long time now and those goalposts have well-worn tracks from how frequently they shift that way.
But it’s clear a lot of people don’t understand why using data without consent is a bad thing in this context
No, they don't agree that using data without consent is a bad thing. Saying "they don't understand" it is begging the question, in the literal sense. You're saying that people who disagree about that are simply being ignorant of some underlying "truth."
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
If this developer doesn’t mind taking data without consent, I hope they don’t have an issue with people pirating their game. That’s a slippery slope if I ever saw one.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
"Slippery slope" is also a fallacy, you realize. Training an AI and copying a game are two different things and it's entirely reasonable to hold the position that one is ok and the other is not.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
You’re missing the point. Both are using data (work of the dev on a game, work of an artist on art) without consent.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm not missing the point. Just because they're both "using data without consent" doesn't mean they're the same thing. Playing baseball and smashing someone's car both involve swinging a bat but that's where the similarity ends.
There are many ways that you can "use data without consent" that are perfectly legal.