So you won’t even engage with my silly hypothetical?
If you don’t think that any amount of “gambling” is worth even the smallest amount of risk, regardless of the possible reward, then I think you are arguing from an indefensible position.
if you don’t do anything it won’t cause anything negative and they’re still free eo talk to you
Are they? They’re not bound be the same constraints as I should be? It’s a risk they should be willing to take?
I just wouldn’t want to risk causing someones day to be shittier because I wanted to gamble.
You’re mischaracterizing things again. I never said I was doing this “because I wanted to gamble.” I’m doing this because I believe that the chances are quite good at having a positive outcome for both me, and the person I’m interacting with. I additionally believe that the chances of a negative outcome are exceptionally low.
You seem to think that both the odds and the severity of a bad outcome are so serious, that the positive outcomes shouldn’t even be considered. Despite a solid day of this conversation, you have only vaguely pointed in the direction of what these bad outcomes look like, or how likely you think they are.
I can infer that you believe it to be extremely likely and extremely serious. I can point back at some of the data which interestingly seems to have failed to capture such a scenario, but it’s still not clear to me that you’ve bothered to read any of the links with studies I’ve provided.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
It’s like gambling on someone else’s money. You could do nothing and the situation stays the same, or you could run the risk of losing their money. You feel the odds are good so you go for it, I would feel shit about losing their money just because I wanted to gamble so I don’t do it. And they can gamble on their own too if they want to, it’s not like by not gambling on their behalf you’re preventing them from gambling.
You’re describing gambling…
jve@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You would feel like shit if you lost somebody a dollar? How about one cent? Even if there was a 1/1000 chance? Even if they stood to win life changing money on the other 999/1000? Do you think they would be upset?
Is no amount of loss worth any amount of win? If that’s your position, then how do you even get up in the morning? Why is this situation so different at the bar? Likelihood of things going badly in a bar are far far higher in my estimation.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
I wouldn’t gamble on someone else’s money since it is not my money to gamble on. It should be up to them imo.
jve@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Ok then how about it’s no money, but they have to hear about how they didn’t get the money, and so they feel kinda bummed out, if they don’t win.