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• blunderworld@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man, I don’t like MAGA either. I think they represent pretty much everything that’s wrong with society today…

  But for a community that talks so often about disliking echo chambers, it really seems like most Lemmy users want an echo chamber.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lemmy has everything from libs to anarchists to tankies. If that’s an echo chamber I think I’ll survive without fascist voices in the mix. The North Korea apologists are bad enough.

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    • blunderworld@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s fair, I can definitely understand that position and agree with you on the NK apologists.

      From my point of view, I think it’s more productive to interact with people I disagree with, in the (possibly naive) pursuit of changing their minds. If people are kicked out for their views, I’d imagine many of them will just double down and act like a martyr. I’m not saying we shouldn’t call these people out and downvote them, that’s why that function exists right? But maybe once in a while, something that we argue will resonate with them.

      Of course there are limits to that approach, and this all hinges on the other person arguing in good faith. Based on the OP’s post history, I’ll admit that I may be barking up the wrong tree in this case.

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      • null@lemmy.nullspace.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I honestly think there’s essentially zero chance of any argument resonating with someone who identifies as MAGA at this point.

        I’d say there’s more danger to letting them into spaces to push hateful shit than there is benefit in the moonshot chance that one of them might hear an argument that resonates.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s an optimistic perspective and I feel like we need more optimism these days. And maybe sometimes people do change their minds on things with social media discussions, though I think it’s already a difficult medium to work with.

        For maga shit though, those people are basically cultists, and from what I understand it’s pretty much impossible to get people out of a cult without a personal connection helping them.

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