Comment on Hydrogen's Big Year Continues With New California H2 Transit Project

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  also most hydrogen is a byproduct of fossil fuels. very little hydrogen is made with green energy.

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  • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s typical to see the proposals devolve.

    Fully green hydrogen!

    Yeah, bit expensive to build now. What if we first do half green and the rest from fossil fuels.

    So we ran the budget again. We were thinking just a quarter green.

    Well, infrastructure doesn’t quite support this, so you know what? Gas with hydrogen added!

    Is this a good time to tell we settled on natural gas with a homeopathic amount of green hydrogen?

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dont most people know that? I thought the promise is that you could establish a hydrogen infrastructure and it would get greener over time - similar to EV’s which get greener over time as power generation includes more renewables.

    Not that I’m that naive but I thought that was the claim. Realistically it looks like corporate welfare to let fossil fuel companies keep a stranglehold on energy. One of the most satisfying parts of owning an EV is thinking about all that industry that no longer needs to exist. It’s not just the drilling and refining and shipping and military support for oppressive regimes worldwide, but also huge amounts of polluting and profiteering infrastructure to store and distribute gasoline to every street corner. It can all go

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      most people do not know that.

      thought the promise is that you could establish a hydrogen infrastructure and it would get greener over time - similar to EV’s which get greener over time as power generation includes more renewables.

      why would we use renewables to produce hydrogen when we could just use that renewable energy as it is? That’s just adding extra steps and inefficiency for very little benefit, if any.

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      • Attacker94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        why should we use renewables to produce hydrogen (not to mention develop an entirely new hydrogen infrastructure) when we could just use that renewable energy as it is? That’s just adding extra steps and inefficiency for very little benefit, if any.

        Because hydrogen isn’t trying to replace the source of energy, it is trying to replace the storage of it, at present batteries are not nearly good enough for the EV only transportation boom, but hydrogen works and only really needs to deal with the volatility issue

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s effectively just a fossil fuel.

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