Comment on Unifying the Fediverse

SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes please don’t try to shoehorn everything into every soft, like Spotify now have shorts and other “social media” bullshit.

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• happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s no reason why any of these software options couldn’t support all the same stuff, as you say. But so far they have chosen not to.

  I can’t post a video using a Matrix account in a way that makes it publicly searchable, and they’re unlikely to support that in the future. In this case, I would have to create a separate account on PeerTube.

  My thought is that plugin-based development could solve this issue. Even if they choose not to support a certain feature, people could simply use a plugin instead.

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  • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Matrix is not part of the fediverse, so that’s kind of a special case and doesn’t work the same at all as the rest.

    What you describe sounds very simplified, but let me assure you that there is nothing simple about this problem (I say that as a software engineer that has studied ActivityPub, the protocol underlying the fediverse).

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    • happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Matrix is not part of the fediverse, so that’s kind of a special case and doesn’t work the same at all as the rest.

      Didn’t know about that. Is there a fediverse messager people could use?

      What you describe sounds very simplified, but let me assure you that there is nothing simple about this problem (I say that as a software engineer that has studied ActivityPub, the protocol underlying the fediverse).

      I’m sure the development is difficult, and I don’t mean to downplay the complexity involved. Still, I wonder if a modular or plugin-based architecture could help bridge that gap.

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      • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It sounds like that would require unifying the architecture of all fediverse platforms, which nobody is interested in and very much goes against the point (decentralization). Right now all of these platforms are written independently, with unique architectures and different programming languages.

        Suffice to say that, while it’s a nice thought, what you’re proposing is not really realistic, nor is it actually desired.

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      • ademir@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Xmpp is The activitypub of chatting

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      • Pamasich@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is there a fediverse messager people could use?

        There is one in active development. But it doesn't seem to be federating YET according to the description. That's an item in the planned list, and federating with other instances of itself is marked as wip. But work is being done on that front, the latest commit on the main branch is from 4 days ago.

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