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chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day agoNo, we only have 2 sexes. Sperm producers and egg producers. We call those male and female. All of the other stuff is window dressing.
Comment on Plants looking at people looking at people looking at fungi
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day agoNo, we only have 2 sexes. Sperm producers and egg producers. We call those male and female. All of the other stuff is window dressing.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
How kind of you to brush all intersex people off as “window dressing”. Also, I guess you dont exist at all if you dont produce eggs or sperms then.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t mean intersex people, I mean everything. Our whole bodies. The structure doesn’t matter. Only the gametes matter for this definition.
Biological sex, defined by gametes, is what we have in common with the birds, bees, and apple trees even though none of those have genetics anyway similar to our own.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Gametes are not useful for this definition, not everyone produces any gametes. More to the actual root of the problem, sex is almost never determined by gametes or by chromosomes. Genetics is very rarely the basis by which sex is determined. It is almost exclusively determined by external appearance. Legitimately, almost 100% of the time. In rare circumstances tests are performed to determine intersex status. But for the overwhelming majority of people the only basis by which their sex has ever been determined is by external appearance.
Gamete production is cool and what not. It is also almost entirely irrelevant to the discussion of intersex people and the precise number of sexes there are. Strictly speaking not all organisms are sortable into the categories of male and female. Thats the reality. To ignore them is to deny reality. To define them as malformed is to dehumanize them. To demand they exist in a binary world ignorant to their experience is to discriminate against them.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re conflating sex determination with the definition of sex. These are not the same thing.
Crocodiles have their sex determined by temperature of incubation. However, their sex is defined by whether they produce sperm or eggs. External appearance is all downstream of that. External appearance does not determine which gametes are produced (if any).