Comment on Internet Archive’s big battle with music publishers ends in settlement
lennee@lemmy.world 6 months ago
funny how thats copyright infringement but AI scraping isnt
Actually there are several legal arguments about this currently ongoing.
There isn’t really a final decision yet, but I think I agree with Cory Doctorow’s opinion that the solution is to make the output of generative AI tools uncopywritable/public domain. This protects artists broadly, as any company that wants to produce a copywrited final work (e.g. film, television, music, books, etc) will need to hire an artist to do it.
I think I agree with Cory Doctorow’s opinion
I’d say that’s always a good position. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him come out on the wrong side of a topic.
I have argued with him. He can tend to throw up flippant back-hands, but his prepared arguments are good.
I’d rather have it that way around than the contrary.
i think that should be a given but it does not solve peoples work being taken and mutilated by an algorithm.
certainly takes incentive out of it for someone that wants to use it for a production, but im sure there are ways they would get around it.
You’re right that it’s not a complete solution. Offhand, it seems like this won’t help graphic designers that make advertising graphics if the advertiser doesn’t really care about copyright protection - or basically anything that is expected to have a short lifespan (who cares if an ad campaign that runs for a week is copyrighted?).
Are those jobs worth fighting over? There are probably a lot more graphic artists making a living producing bilboards and web ads &etc than there are making a living selling their own art, but are those jobs something that society at large should make an effort to protect?
General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The Archive strongly supports AI training being Fair Use. It has even advised the UK government to relax copyright laws to permit training. blog.archive.org/…/internet-archive-submits-comme…
Some of the precedents won by AI companies offer great support for the Archive, but remember that they also had to pay up on occasion.
lennee@lemmy.world 6 months ago
it can be fair use as long as it is open. OpenAi used to be a non-profit after all. As it stands now they can go fuck themselves as far as im concerned.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why do you want it to work that way?
lennee@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cuz AI in the hands of a few is harmful (see elon musks grok and I find it reprehensible to train AI on material that u steal and then paywall the result