Comment on Internet Archive’s big battle with music publishers ends in settlement
lennee@lemmy.world 2 days ago
funny how thats copyright infringement but AI scraping isnt
The Archive strongly supports AI training being Fair Use. It has even advised the UK government to relax copyright laws to permit training. blog.archive.org/…/internet-archive-submits-comme…
Some of the precedents won by AI companies offer great support for the Archive, but remember that they also had to pay up on occasion.
it can be fair use as long as it is open. OpenAi used to be a non-profit after all. As it stands now they can go fuck themselves as far as im concerned.
Why do you want it to work that way?
Cuz AI in the hands of a few is harmful (see elon musks grok and I find it reprehensible to train AI on material that u steal and then paywall the result
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 days ago
Actually there are several legal arguments about this currently ongoing.
There isn’t really a final decision yet, but I think I agree with Cory Doctorow’s opinion that the solution is to make the output of generative AI tools uncopywritable/public domain. This protects artists broadly, as any company that wants to produce a copywrited final work (e.g. film, television, music, books, etc) will need to hire an artist to do it.
duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
i think that should be a given but it does not solve peoples work being taken and mutilated by an algorithm.
certainly takes incentive out of it for someone that wants to use it for a production, but im sure there are ways they would get around it.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 day ago
You’re right that it’s not a complete solution. Offhand, it seems like this won’t help graphic designers that make advertising graphics if the advertiser doesn’t really care about copyright protection - or basically anything that is expected to have a short lifespan (who cares if an ad campaign that runs for a week is copyrighted?).
Are those jobs worth fighting over? There are probably a lot more graphic artists making a living producing bilboards and web ads &etc than there are making a living selling their own art, but are those jobs something that society at large should make an effort to protect?
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’d say that’s always a good position. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him come out on the wrong side of a topic.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I have argued with him. He can tend to throw up flippant back-hands, but his prepared arguments are good.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I’d rather have it that way around than the contrary.