Comment on ‘I’m a modern-day luddite’: Meet the students who don’t use laptops

• lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Can confirm, switched away from laptop notes to incomprehensible-to-others fountain pen writing. Writing is the important part anyway.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That’s only true if you don’t refer to your notes. Reviewing notes has a much stronger correlation to remembering than how those notes are generated.

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  • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I had a math teacher in highschool that allowed us make a “cheat sheet” during tests – it had to be hand written on an index card. I discovered that if I actually made a “cheat sheet” I rarely needed to look at it. It’s the same for hand-written lists when I’m shopping.

    For a lot of people there’s something about actually writing information down the makes it “stick” better in memory.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And there are studies about just that. However, when you review your notes, it matters a lot less what method you used to create the notes.

      If you’re unlikely to actually study your notes, handwriting is better. If you’re likely to study them, use whatever is most convenient for studying.

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  • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, and just handwriting notes in class and expecting to not have to study and remember everything is only going to work for classes that aren’t information dense. Expecting to do that for classes like physiology or anatomy isn’t going to work unless someone has amazing memory.

    Not many people who would be able to list all the proper nerve and muscle locations and body mechanisms just because they sat and handwrote their notes or whatever. At a certain point few remember and it comes heavily down to studying outside of classes, and having good notes that can be referenced to make study material off of is what makes the difference.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For rote memorization, sure.

      I’m more talking about conceptual things, say, in math. You don’t need to memorize it, but you do need to remember how it works. For that, I find the textbook to be the most helpful, and class time is to help understand the textbook. For that type of thing, I don’t need to reference my notes in the future, I mostly need to pay attention in class and revisit the material again later to make sure I got it. Handwriting can help with that type of retention.

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      • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Math I put more on the side of not having to even need notes, but just understand the formula and it involves practice by doing different problems over and over so you can solve problems on exams.

        So I don’t put in the same category of classes that are less problem solving or less abstract concepts like philosophy.

        Ones that are specific things that need to be recalled with little room for reinterpretation are ones where handwriting things isn’t enough, since the answer is either right or wrong. So memorization outside of class is heavy requirement. There’s just no shortcut to those type of classes and too much info to retain unless someone has a naturally great memory.

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• Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wasn’t the case for me for information dense subjects like biology related subjects. Found I didn’t retain anything, but worst of all my notes were so messy I couldn’t even use them, so ended up wasting time having to go back and listen to the lecture again to create notes I could study off of and make short summaries of to start memorizing.

  Some exceptions to typing has been problem solving basic subjects like math where there’s no rush to try to get down bunch of information, so for that I definitely go handwriting. But, for really information dense subjects its typing all the way.

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  • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I have ADHD and didn’t get diagnosed or medicated until after I was out of school.

    I basically had two options: pay attention in class or attempt to take notes.

    I had so many teachers in grade school complain I didn’t take notes, or do homework but that was a different complaint. The issue was that when I took notes I would miss chunks of information as I was writing and my writing was basically illegible because I was trying to put it down fast. If I slowed down to make it neat I would miss even more information. So any notes I took would be next to useless and I wouldn’t remember anything. And that’s without even determining what I needed to write down.

    Grade school was also slow passed and repetitive enough that most of the time I could sit and watch or doodle while listening and retain the information. Basically the only thing I struggled with was spelling because it was just rote memorization.

    College was a bit harder in some cases beyond general ed, but for the classes I needed to study for I was able to re-watch the recorded lectures and take the time to write stuff out since I could rewind and pause.

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    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t remember anything either whether i write or type. So it became important that I at least take good notes I can then study off of outside of class and make flash cards or more condensed shorter notes of.

      For me class wasn’t for remembering or learning. Just being exposed to material that I could later start studying and understanding outside of class.

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