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As far as I've ever been paying attention, conservatives only argue in bad faith. It's always been about elevating their own speech and suppressing speech that counters theirs. They just couch it in terms that sound vaguely reasonable or logical in the moment if you don't know their history and don't think about it more deeply than very surface-level.

Before, platforms were suppressing their speech, so they were promoters of free speech. Now platforms are not suppressing speech counter to them, so it's all about content moderation to protect the children, or whatever. But their policies always belie their true motive: they never implement what research shows supports their claimed position of the moment. They always create policies that hurt their out-groups and may sometimes help their in-groups (helping people is optional).

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vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

As far as I’ve ever been paying attention, conservatives only argue in bad faith. It’s always been about elevating their own speech and suppressing speech that counters theirs.

That’s not conservatives, that’s most humans.

Now yes, conservatism is about skepticism of any proposed system of interpreting reality to bring solutions. Sort of a chaotic ideology. There are ideologies chaotic too, but opposite in sign about optimism, ancom and ancap similarly for this purpose, or maybe even Soviet communism (which didn’t specify what “communism” itself is other than “no money, no hierarchy, no government”, because that had to be ascertained). These are all about not knowing what specific system is good or bad, generally, but having an idea of approaching that good or avoiding that bad.

There are also orderly ideologies, like that bog standard liberal democracy that was supposed to always work, or constitutional monarchism, where the “ideal” system is very precisely described and should just be implemented. This also includes Catholic distributivism, which seems somewhere between ancom and ancap, except it’s clear on how it should work.

Fascism notably is all over the place, though, that’s its only definitive trait. Fascism differs from mainstream in a different dimension than most ideological extremes. Its point is that there’s no point, just vibes and will transcending reality. It’s can be skeptical or it can be optimist, it can be progressive or conservative, the point of fascism is that these don’t matter, only what you need and want right now. Truth doesn’t matter, only the dream.

There are also orderly progressive ideologies. US progressives are such. Or leftists who think that Soviet system is their dogmatic ideal, while I have already written before than in Soviet communism it was just a mechanism. The dogmatic ideal was somewhere at some point making that ideal society, quite similar to kingdom of heaven for Christians in perception.

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Hector@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Social media was biased against the left more than the right since before the Republicans went on their big Crusade against social media censorship. The Democrats welcome the actual left getting banned off social media, they hate and fear the left more than they hate and fear Republicans, while the Republicans fight for the right when they get banned.

Dems relished using the far right to get cause to also remove their left ctitics under both sideisms, convinced as they are if we all just pretended they were good they would win.

It is our fault, we did not believe hard enough, but I digress.

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