No. Not being sarcastic. You’ve got to look at it from a historical context. Liberalism and tolerance are relatively newer concepts.
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sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 day agoThats not human nature thats the product of a society that demands conformity. You wouldn’t say its in a coal miner’s nature to have black lung
devolution@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Liberalism yeah but tolerance has existed for as long as humans have formed community. I’d argue that prejudice and bigotry, in the way we experience them today and at the scale we see today, are far newer.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 17 hours ago
And that society is the product of human nature.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
How can you know that for certain when this society is all that you have known? Isn’t it more likely that you are told these things are human nature in order to justify their existence and power over you?
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 17 hours ago
Isn’t it more likely that you are told these things are human nature in order to justify their existence and power over you?
No, that is a significantly more complicated explanation than the obvious assumption that humans, behaving according to their nature, created a society that is the result of human nature.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
I am sorry to say that human society, which has existed and evolved for millennia, is often complex and has more to do with production and hierarchy than the expression of a nebulous human nature.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Tribalism is literally human nature, though. People have a natural tendency to have a group they consider their own, and those outside of that group. It absolutely is human nature, and has been for thousands of years.
Have you ever thought that maybe those happened because of human nature, and not the other way around?
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Yes acually, I believed that most of my life until I started my education in history and anthropology. Through my studies I was exposed to many societies which did not define themselves through exclusionary definitions. Mostly these were small hunter gatherer societies that were not in direct competition with other groups for resources. I’d be more inclined to argue that it is scarcity of resources that originally created the conditions for tribalism as you describe it. If you removed the incentive for tribalism by removing scarcity I do not believe it would have come about but we also wouldn’t have ever formed a sedentary ageicultural society so you win some and you lose some.