Comment on Vape ban isn't working, says waste firm boss

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• tal@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Frankly, I’m kind of surprised that people use disposable vapes. It doesn’t seem like it buys them much relative to using a reusable one. It’s gonna cost more over time. I donlt believe that they require maintenance.

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  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean I’m with you, I use refillable ones and brew my own juice, but often convenience outweighs everything else for most people.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hmm. The article’s talking about kids:

      A government spokesperson said: “Single-use vapes get kids hooked on nicotine and blight our high streets - it’s why we’ve taken tough action and banned them.”

      I’m wondering if maybe if you’re a kid, there’s a risk of the vape being seized – like, get caught with it at school or something, I assume that you don’t get it back. Probably ditto for parents keeping 'em if they find 'em. If you’re a kid, it might be rational if the goal is to mitigate cost of seizure of your vape.

      kagis

      Picking a random online vape shop, huffandpuffers.com, it looks like they sell disposable vapes for maybe $13 (there’s an $8 one, “Daze Clickmate Max”, but it’s out-of-stock). The cheapest reusable is a (small-capacity) fixed-battery refillable version of the disposable one, at $8 (“Daze Clickmate Max”). There are vapes with replaceable batteries, can take lithium 18650s, but those are $55 to $70, and it looks like they don’t include the 18650; it looks like an 18650 goes for maybe $3 or $4 online, so figure $60 or more.

      At that ratio, a reusable costing around 7 times what a disposable might, it wouldn’t take an incredibly high seizure rate for it to be worthwhile for a kid to use disposables.

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      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That is true, I never thought of that since back in my getting caught days vapes didn’t exist. Getting caught probably does factor into their rationale.

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      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        From a practical standpoint (whether or not kids think this way) those $3-4 ones are mostly shit, the $6-10 dollar ones are more what you’d want to be using, you’d want at least 2 or 3 in case they run out when you’re out and about and you’ll need a charger too. The refillable tanks on that site (at a glance) use premade coil cartridge things that need replaced (though you’ll probably get a week or more out of them) $12+ for a pack of those and the juice isn’t free either.

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