Comment on YSK that in several US States, it's illegal to boycott Israel
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks agoThe 1st ammendment begs to differ.
I realize you are regurgitating The preposterous legal arguments of the lawmakers that have passed these laws but that Legal reasoning is laughable as it is for So-Called civil asset forfeiture Where the fifth Amendment against seizure of private property without due process does not apply because they charge your property not you. The State verse your wallet and car.
These are clearly bad faith ad hoc arguments they are making.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The First Amendment isn’t self-executing.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is another great example of Government In Practice rather than Government In Theory. Like, we can wax poetic about the Ought, but I’m talking about the Is.
Arguments they’re winning by stacking the courts with judges predisposed to agree.
At some point, a system is what it does. You can’t just plug your ears and scream “My high school civics teacher told me this is wrong!”
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
So what is your point? Because we got corrupted politicians that dishonor the highest laws of the land, what? We should not try to see those laws ever enforced? Just give up and accept it?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We should see things as they really are and stop playing make-believe. Digging in your heels and saying “You can’t do that because the First Amendment stops you!” is akin to some sovereign citizen announcing he can’t be convicted of a crime because the flag has a yellow fringe.
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. And if you live in denial, insisting that people can’t hurt you because laws protect you, you’re going to have a very bad time when the cops come knocking at your door.
Not at all. You’ve got to reach out to your neighbors, join community groups, unionize your workforce, and oppose the fascist government at every opportunity. And you’ve got to do it knowing you’ll be breaking the law at some point along the line.
If you want to talk about Israeli BDS, you’ve got to talk about it like a guerrilla fighting an insurgency not like a customer choosing Pepsi over Coca-Cola.
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I don’t agree with your analysis of what I am saying here. Wanting a restoration of the Republic is not playing Make-Believe, it is not surrendering.
Obviously we already talked about the rules not being honored, nobody is making believe they are being honored on this thread.
But within the rules of the government we have we could fix the government and Society. It is just a matter of getting good leadership to get us there and organizing behind them.