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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 week agoSure, I get the “just following orders” criticism, my point is that killing ICE agents wouldn’t solve anything. I imagine many of them joined long before the crackdown started and are there to arrest actually bad people (i.e. cartel members) and don’t like the direction the current admin is going. There are also plenty of people who support this nonsense too.
Regardless, attacking the people following orders doesn’t change the orders, we should be attacking the top.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I understand your point, but these people know what they’re signing up for. We shouldn’t pretend these people are in anyway innocent or not culpable for their crimes. Regardless of orders, these are people who are willingly causing pain, suffering and death to innocents.
Fuck them. Fuck their bosses. None of them get any credit or sympathy. I don’t care if they started when ice was formed, they know what their orders are and are still there, what they signed up for is entirely immaterial. Also, ice was shit from the start, so even less sympathy from me.
Making people hesitant to throw in with the brownshirts for fear of social reprisal is a perfectly valid strategy for attacking the top. Make less people want to participate in their crimes makes it harder for them to do crimes.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
No, it just means the reasonable people will leave and it’ll attract the types who actually agree with it. There will always be more people to take those jobs.
The real solution is changing the leadership and laws.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 week ago
That’s a much smaller pool of people than those who may willingly go along with it but object otherwise.
Stop giving thugs a pass for being thugs, just because their bosses are shit. You can attack both, this isn’t some kind of mutually exclusive action.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
My point is that killing ICE agents won’t make things better and will probably make things worse.