Comment on Mastodon says it doesn't 'have the means' to comply with age verification laws

• gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Except you forget about the whole “as long as it doesn’t directly affect others” thing.

  I followed on your steatment. If I forgot it, you also forgot it.

  But my point stand, by the traffic code you cannot drive drunk also if you don’t affect anyone else on the road.
  Generally it is not that you can do something that is illegal thinking that it is ok as long as it doesn’t affect others.

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  • HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Let me turn that around on you.

    You think people should be charged with a crime they haven’t done yet? Because that is exactly what happens in some DUI arrests.

    Sleeping it off in your car but have the engine on because it’s cold/hot outside? DUI.

    Then there are the idiotic open container laws where even an open alcoholic drink is legally a DUI, even if the driver isn’t drinking.

    And if you can’t afford a good lawyer? It’s a conviction. Which goes on your permanent record.

    A guy I worked with had a motorcycle try to pass his company vehicle as he was turning left. The motorcycle driver was killed.

    It fucked the guy up so bad, mentally. He began drinking. Never at work, but he drove a company vehicle. See where this is going yet? If not let me finish.

    A block from his house, he cracked open a beer. Now even if he had chugged it, there’s no way he’d be even slightly drunk before he got home. But he didn’t realize the worker who sold him the beer had already called the police and he was being followed.

    The arrested him for DUI in his own driveway, due to idiotic open container laws, despite blowing a 0.

    He took a plea for reckless endangerment, but it didn’t matter. He was 4 years from retirement. He was fired.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Let me turn that around on you.

      You think people should be charged with a crime they haven’t done yet? Because that is exactly what happens in some DUI arrests.

      Of course not, but then maybe the problem is not the DUI law, it is the fact that you cannot fight it if you cannot get a good lawyer, which cost money. Basically your justice system is fucked up.

      Sleeping it off in your car but have the engine on because it’s cold/hot outside? DUI.

      Slippery slope. How can police know that you just turned on the engine but not moved instead of driving and then stopping because you fall asleep ?

      Then there are the idiotic open container laws where even an open alcoholic drink is legally a DUI, even if the driver isn’t drinking.

      That is a stupid law, I agree, but it is the law.

      A block from his house, he cracked open a beer. Now even if he had chugged it, there’s no way he’d be even slightly drunk before he got home.

      Well, he should not have done it. He know the laws. I can feel pity for him in the specific case, but he breaks the stupid law.

      The arrested him for DUI in his own driveway, due to idiotic open container laws, despite blowing a 0.

      That was the problem here. The laws is written so you fail either way. Here if I have an open wine bottle in the car but I blow a 0, nobody could do anything to me.

      But assuming I agree with you, what would be your suggestion to avoid people driving around while drunk ? Or to avoid minors to access porn material ? Aside the charade “parents need to educate they children” that obviously you cannot take for granted.

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      • HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If they hurt someone, then they get charged with a crime. If they do not there’s no injury to anyone else so it’s not a crime.

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