Comment on New self-assembling material could be the key to recyclable batteries

• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes, Lithium Ion batteries did. Do you know when their lab experimentation equivalent to his article occurred? The 70s and 80s.

  Do you know how many labs have experimented with new battery types that have some benefits in some areas since then? Literally thousands and thousands and thousands. Most go nowhere.

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    LiFePo4 was first brought up in lab experiments in 1996/1997.

    NaIon first came up in the 80s, but were shelved and most research happened in the 2010s.

    But as you rightfully noticed: It took Li-Ion Batteries 20 years to become usable and another 20 years to become really good. Why would you expect that other battery technologies would be faster to market? Many other chemistries are on the market but just haven’t (yet) become better than Li-Ion.

    Battery development is a huge amount of trial and error, and Li-Ion was also a series of throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks. On the way to develop Li-Ion hundreds if not thousands of chemistries had to be tried, tested and discarded. That specific technology went through multiple companies and research facilities who each discarded the idea when they got stuck and coundn’t find a way around the problems, and then the next company picked it up to continue working on it.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t expect them to come to market faster than that, I expect people to not believe and post headlines about a battery technology revolutionizing things when it’s early stage research and most likely will not.

      If you spent your time reading about every novel research battery since ether dawn of Li Ion and today, all you’ll have succeeded in is wasting a lot of time.

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      • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not any more waste of time than reading 90% of other tech news (or any news in general). It’s basically entertainment, not education.

        So if I wasted some time reading a interesting article about some prototype technology, I haven’t wasted any more or less time than reading some news article about some other topic that doesn’t affect me.

        I’m not holding my breath that this specific technology will beat Li-Ion in a year and I will not use the article as investment advice, but there’s nothing wrong with using it for free entertainment.

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