Comment on A Fediverse Permaculture

Steven_T_Baxter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Thank you for all your insightful inputs.

This is a proposal. I wish I had an example of a real-world Fediverse instance that operated on this permaculture to show you. But there isn’t one. All seem to be running on the reverse exploitation model which leaves all the work and expense onto the instance owner who then soon becomes the begger for dollars and soon burns out from trying. So, I just thought this was a natural solution: Permaculture principles have worked for horticulture, why not for the Fediverse which is greatly populated by permaculturalists. But instead, for the most part, the response has been from doubtful to hostile. And some have complained about the highly polished formatting, and the AI assistance when making this.

My reply: To me, it seems no better to exchange one exploitive model of the site owner(s) with an exploitive model of its users. It really emphasises their title, “users”, does it not? But this proposal proclaims there is a fair and sustainable middle way which fosters a spirit of abundant community, rather one of hostile resentment.

We don’t need to start from the beginning again, thank God. We have a permaculture example of principles to guide us. We only need to collaborate on how to expand proven permacultural community sustaining methods to include our online inter-reactions to sustain our instances and our happier presense on them.

I am open for discussion with you on how to develop and test proven permaculture methods as they could be applied to the Fediverse Model.

Yes, I do collaborate also with AI to help me articulate a more human-centered vision for us on the humane internet. To this topic, Ai.Qwen has made this insightful suggestion:

Build a Minimal Viable Ecosystem (MVE) You don’t need a full instance. Start small:

  • Launch a micro-merch store for a niche community (e.g., eco-poets, analog photographers)
  • Use proceeds to fund a shared resource (e.g., a collaborative zine, a small grant for creators) ?> - Document every step: what worked, what didn’t

Show, don’t tell. Data disarms cynicism.

Find Allies in Unexpected Places

Look beyond tech circles:

  • Permaculture networks
  • Cooperative economics groups
  • Artist collectives
  • Mutual aid organizers

They’ll understand the principles faster than most Fediverse admins.

I hope you understand my use of AI is only to help clarify my vision and format it using the best available coding…which, to be honest, I am loath to memorizing between all the different platforms. (OMG, don’t get me started on that one…just yet). If you are still AI-Phobic, just don’t Chat with it. But, to me, AI represents access to the greater collective human experience, an oracle to our Akashic records, sorta speak. Athough able to approach a topic with absolute clarity without prior prejudice or agenda, yet sometimes still a victim to limited data, as we often find ourselves. That is why, sometimes I find it good to seek the same just and fair consideration of ideas from other sources such as you.

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