Yes actually, we’ve been studying the language of whales and cetaceans for decades, the study you are referencing, which ended tragically, was part of that ongoing research.
We are closer than ever to unlocking whale language, and have identified several key areas that are hinting that they have actual grammar, such as connecting sounds between repeated “terms” but even with our best tech, we may never be able to hold a conversation with them, as we live in such vastly different worlds that we can assume that they have extremely different perceptions and may not have the foundational experiences necessary to share words and language.
Dude, we jack off about first contact math abd how we would talk to aliens. Seti was(is?) A thing.
If we cant talk to fuckers whose antique bones my grandmother decorated her room with, whose grandmother read by the light of the burning flesh of? We have no god damn right to be calling ourselves intelligent or civilized as a species.
I don’t think I want another class of slave/sex trafficking victims, we have enough problems with manmade horrors creating hell on earth for sentient creatures, we don’t need to make them sapient as well.
My so-called government just canceled nearly every space probe and scientific endeavor planned for the next decade, de-orbited two climate monitoring satellites for no reason other than performative politics, put a stop to windmill energy farms, effectively pardoned one of the worst sex traffickers in the world to avoid being found complicit, and the supreme court is deciding on how legal it is to arrest someone for not being white.
I’mma say naw dog. The only way I could possibly condone uplifting any non-human creatures at this point is if they’re designed to surpass us in every way and utterly overpower our species almost immediately so that we don’t make it out into the stars.
I say this as someone who grew up watching Star Trek and reading Sagan. The stars are not for us. We are the same horrible primates who smashed each others heads in with rocks for a million years before we discovered agriculture and money. Same creature, more excused to smash heads.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can’t we just find a way to upgrade the earth animals instead?
We can have real furries that way
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Upgrade?
Have we even seriously tried opening dialogue with elephant or whale tribes?
I know we jacked off a bunch of dolphins we raised in captivity, but, like… Did we send anthropologists anf linguists?
ameancow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yes actually, we’ve been studying the language of whales and cetaceans for decades, the study you are referencing, which ended tragically, was part of that ongoing research.
We are closer than ever to unlocking whale language, and have identified several key areas that are hinting that they have actual grammar, such as connecting sounds between repeated “terms” but even with our best tech, we may never be able to hold a conversation with them, as we live in such vastly different worlds that we can assume that they have extremely different perceptions and may not have the foundational experiences necessary to share words and language.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Dude, we jack off about first contact math abd how we would talk to aliens. Seti was(is?) A thing.
If we cant talk to fuckers whose antique bones my grandmother decorated her room with, whose grandmother read by the light of the burning flesh of? We have no god damn right to be calling ourselves intelligent or civilized as a species.
qarbone@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just because we could talk to a whale wouldn’t make them a furry. They need to be anthropoidal to be a furry.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I said upgrade.
Let’s make their bodies more enjoyable for us to see. If we never meet aliens, let’s make them.
Machinist@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And gave them LSD! Funded by NASA.
The Dolphin Who Loved Me.
ameancow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t think I want another class of slave/sex trafficking victims, we have enough problems with manmade horrors creating hell on earth for sentient creatures, we don’t need to make them sapient as well.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nah, let’s do it.
Better to have practice right now than to commit the same mistakes when we meet aliens out there.
This planet is our cradle. Our place of learning. Our tutorial level.
ameancow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My so-called government just canceled nearly every space probe and scientific endeavor planned for the next decade, de-orbited two climate monitoring satellites for no reason other than performative politics, put a stop to windmill energy farms, effectively pardoned one of the worst sex traffickers in the world to avoid being found complicit, and the supreme court is deciding on how legal it is to arrest someone for not being white.
I’mma say naw dog. The only way I could possibly condone uplifting any non-human creatures at this point is if they’re designed to surpass us in every way and utterly overpower our species almost immediately so that we don’t make it out into the stars.
I say this as someone who grew up watching Star Trek and reading Sagan. The stars are not for us. We are the same horrible primates who smashed each others heads in with rocks for a million years before we discovered agriculture and money. Same creature, more excused to smash heads.