Comment on Albanese's politics of patience: Democracy needs mature leadership

• Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What is he doing that’s getting people killed?

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  • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For a start:

    …com.au/billions-in-israel-defence-contracts-put-…

    …com.au/more-gas-labor-amps-it-up-past-twenty-fos…

    He doesn’t have morals. He’s another corporate boot licker with a vague excuse.

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    • prex@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, we’re much better off with…
      …Sussan Ley?

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      • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yes, my entire point is obviously that we should just bend over and accept evil because someone else might be a bit worse. /s

        You can’t go around giving people a free pass for being spineless and corrupt just because someone else is worse. That’s literally the reason the system slides further and further right. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

        Would I rather have Albo? Sure. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a turd who’s actively making it worse under the guise of electoral reform and it sure doesn’t mean we should accept it. Do you want a two party system? Because this is how we get one.

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    • Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The Israel story doesn’t allege any Labor wrongdoing other than the Elbit/Hanwha deal. There was a non-response from the Department of Defense but I wouldn’t expect them to respond. The Elbit/Hanwha deal is a bit of a misnomer, because it was a deal with Hanwha that Elbit was subcontracted in. The decision to employ Elbit was that of Hanwha, while they didn’t actively push against it they also didn’t initiate it. This is all me just skimming so take what I say with a grain of salt.

      You gotta remember that America owns us, and Israel owns America. Actively (rather than passively) boycotting Israeli arms manufacturers would likely put our system at risk without materially affecting Israel’s ability to shoot fish in a barrel.

      The fossil fuel approvals, I can’t find a credible source debunking those claims and can’t be bothered looking into the details. I need to know why Labor would approve new fossil fuel projects because I don’t buy the narrative that they’re evil and/or corrupt. Until I know the reason I can’t consider the story credible.

      The salmon farming thing was obviously an election promise to get Tasmanian seats. It ultimately proved unnecessary because Dutton fumbled the campaign so catastrophically but if he goes back on his word that’d hurt future elections.

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      • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I see. You aren’t interested in engaging with reality.

        Labor has no good reason to open fossil fuel extraction projects years after we’re meant to be beyond that. The fact that you’re just deciding the story is fake is incredibly telling…

        The salmon farming thing was indeed an election promise. It was also pure fucking evil, that’s my entire point. Albo sentenced an entire species to extinction for politics. How do you not see the problem here?

        America does own us! Because of spineless politicians who keep bending to their will. We don’t have to be where we are now, we don’t have to keep propping up a self justifying system of death. We should never act like any of this is even slightly okay. I don’t understand how you aren’t outraged at the fact that this is all happening for nothing more than greed.

        The systems you’re using to justify this aren’t actually justifications, they’re mechanisms fullfilling their intended purpose.

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