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non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Running the k8s in their own VM will allow you to hedge against mistakes and keep some separation between infra and kube.
I personally don’t use proxmox anymore, but I deploy with ansible and roles, not k8s anymore.
nagaram@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Ansible is next on my list of things to learn.
I don’t think I’ll need to dedicate all of my compute space to K8s probably just half for now.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Ansible is y2k tech brought to you in 2010. Its workarounds for its many problems bring problems of their own. I’d recommend mgmtconfig, but it’s a deep pool if you’re just getting into it. Try Chef(cinc.sh) or saltstack, but keep mgmtconfig on the radar when you want to switch from 2010 tech to 2020 tech.
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Wow, huge disagree on saltstack and chef being ahead of Ansible. I’ve used all 3 in production (and even Puppet) and watched Ansible absolutely surge onto the scene and displace everyone else in the enterprise space in a scant few years.
Ansible is just so much lower overhead and so much easier to understand and make changes to. It’s dominating the configuration management space for a reason. And nearly all of the self hosted/homelab space is active in Ansible and have tons of well baked playbooks.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Popular isn’t always better. See: Betamax/VHS, Blu-ray vs HDDVD, skype/MSSkype, everything vs Teams, everything vs Outlook, everything vs Azure. Ansible is accessible like DUPLO is accessible, man, and with the payola like Blu-ray got and the pressuring like what shot systemd into the frame, of course it would appeal to the C-suite.
Throwing a few-thousand at Ansible/AAP and the jagged edges pop out – and we have a team of three that is dedicated to Nagios and AAP. And it’s never not glacially slow – orders of magnitude slower than absolutely everything.
non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My issue with mgmt.config is that it bills itself as an api-driven “modern” orchestrator, but as soon as you don’t have systemd on clients, it becomes insanely complicated to blast out simple changes.
Mgmt.config also claims to be “easy”, but you have to learn MCL’s weird syntax, which the issue I have with chef and its use of ruby.
Yes, ansible is relatively simple, but it runs on anything (including being supported on actual arm64) and I daresay that layering roles and modules makes ansible quite powerful.
It’s kind of like nagios… Nagios sucks. But it has such a massive library of monitoring tricks and tools that it will be around forever.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You skewer two apps for syntax, but not Ansible’s fucking YAML? Dood. I’m building out a layered declarative config at the day-job, and it’s just page after page with python’s indentation fixation and powershell’s bipolar expressions. This is better for you?