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dilan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Try WireMin, I’ve been using it for a month, E2EE for dms, voice call, chat rooms, feed, pic or file transfers, P2P network. Its different with Signal/Telegram, which are run by a single company and could exit the UK if they have to. It is decentralized, it can’t be controlled or banned by anyone.
Banana_man@reddthat.com 1 year ago
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Propietary garbage. Contact us @gmail.com? Links to Facebook and Twitter in the footer?
Seriously do not download it might be a malware trying to advertise itself this way.
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 1 year ago
WireMin, as far as I can tell, is not open source. There’s no way to prove that any of their claims are actually true. Plenty of messaging apps have claimed to be “decentralized” and “end to end encrypted”, but those have been false claims a lot of the time.
I would suggest you look into Matrix and XMPP, which are actually decentralized protocols rather than a single closed source app. Since they’re open protocols, there’s actual proof of them being decentralized and end-to-end-encrypted.
Reading through the WireMin privacy policy and ToS, they are making several impossible claims, such as:
As a somewhat tech-savy Matrix user, I can already tell you there’s literally no way for them to not receive user information, simply by having an app on the app or play store, user information gets sent to them for each download. Many functions in the app also cannot work without a publicly accessible server. Things like notifications, or even receiving any messages at all while the client device is behind NAT.
They even back down on their own statements in that same privacy policy:
And they clearly say a push notification token is obtained, which requires server infrastructure to use:
While also claiming it is collected “without exposing user identity or the device’s IP”, which is impossible to do. (iirc) The IP protocol requires source and destination IP addresses to be known on both sides (even if I’m misremembering and it’s not the IP protocol, TCP still does).
Although I have not dug through the app, to figure out how it works internally, I can assure you it is not “decentralized”, and will go down or at the very least lack basic features as soon as their servers are shut off. Them lying about such a “large” aspect of their platform also makes me heavily question the “E2EE” claim.
Platforms such as Matrix or XMPP solve most of the issues I noted here by having decentralized servers, but ““centralized”” clients (clients only connect to one server). If any one server goes down, the clients under that server are affected, but the rest of the servers (and thus the rest of the network) is not affected.