Comment on Selfhosting Sunday - What's up to date, selfhosters?

• azron@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I find VMs to BR unbearably sloe compared to a container. They just feel so heavy. I get the extra security layer, is that really why people are doing it or is there some other reason?

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  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Being able to choose the OS and kernel is also important. I would not want my hypervisor machine to load GPU kernel modules, especially not on an older LTS kernel (which often don’t support the latest hardware). Passing the GPU to a VM ensures stability of the host machine, with the flexibility to choose whatever kernel I need for specific hardware. This alongside running entirely different OSes (like *BSD, Windows :(, etc) is pretty useful for some services.

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  • McMonster@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Portability, isolation, the ability to run pretty much anything inside. They do consume more resources, but if they’re that much slower then there’s probably something wrong in your setup.

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  • non_burglar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The easy ui is good for those who aren’t living in the terminal all the time.

    I used proxmox for nearly 8 years before switching to only containers. It was fine.

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  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Extra security and full isolation with its own kernel, so you can load kerne modules and such.

    Also can run Windows in a VM when needed, or MacOS.

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    • azron@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      VMs are not just as fast as containers.

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      • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I didn’t say that, I said almost! Generally disk IO is where VMs fall short on performance vs a container.

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not everything runs in a container.

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• deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Same here, though more out of lack of control over the host. Libvirt works on basically any distro, and you can easily configure whatever Linux distro you like best for running it. I can’t configure my boot process the way I want on Proxmox (at least not without learning/sidestepping its “convenience” tools/setup).

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