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• k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So, I can’t complain about any part of the remaining 85% if I’m not vegan? That’s so fucking stupid. Do you not complain about microplastics because you’re guilty of using devices with plastic in them to type your message?

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  • threeduck@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Imagining complaining about someone tipping out fresh water, while eating a burger when a single kilo of beef uses between 15,000 to 200,000 liters.

    Like, until you stop doing the worst thing a single consumer can do to the planet for literally nothing but greed and pleasure (eating meat instead of healthier alternatives), you have no leg to criticize.

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  • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes, I’m a piece of shit for using a phone made by a capitalist corporation and contributes to harming the planet. I don’t deny that I live in a horrible society that forces me to be a bad human just to survive.

    I also don’t call people stupid for telling me my device is bad for the environment. I still eat meat, I’m not a vegan, but I understand and completely agree that it’s terrible for the environment. By recognizing it, I can be conscious of my consumption and reduce it.

    I also use LLMs conservatively, I use them where they add value and I don’t use them frivolously to generate shitty AI slop.

    I’m conscious of its dangers and that drives my consumption of it.

    But I don’t pick and choose. I don’t eat animal products three meals a day and bitch about someone using an LLM to edit a file instead of manually working on it for five hours.

    Just be consistent is the message they were communicating, not that you shouldn’t complain about 85%.

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    • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Same, I’m very aware that my selfish actions cause harm to the environment and I do try to be conservative about meat, electricity, and water usage. I don’t even own a car.

      But “I swear to God, if you aren’t vegan,” which is what OP said, is hardly the same as “keep it consistent.” It feels like they’re telling us both that our efforts are pointless because we aren’t vegan. They could have said, try cutting meat from your diet to help more, or give veganism a thought. It comes off as insufferably arrogant, you know?

      I’ll end my rant now, haha. Sorry.

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      • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They were trying to be funny, don’t be too literal.

        I think (that’s how I interrupted it, I don’t know) the intent was to reflect the insufferably arrogant tone of most people who exclusively complain about AI as if it has no benefits and will be the sole destroyer of our society.

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  • thatcrow@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You can, but you also open yourself up to criticism of your hypocrisy.

    Right now, your cognitive dissonance is flaring up because you have to simultaneous criticize someone for contributing to a problem while contributing to it yourself.

    I’m not even vegan, but I absolutely love watching meat-eaters squirm because it reinforces my notion that the average person is a complete idiot.

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    • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m very much aware of my hypocrisy, but I do my best in other ways to help.

      If people like OP are going to be dismissive of my efforts, then I guess they’re free to think that — just like I’m free to think that kind of hate keeping is stupid.

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• zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  you’re just personally insulted.

  I swear to God this attitude is why people don’t like what you’re saying. I am all for weighing the two against each other but the “I am more moral than thou” is why I left the church.

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