Comment on YSK that Hasan Piker says that "the rest of the countries around the globe" think Russia is in Ukraine to combat American imperialism

goat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I don't really have a problem with someone being a streamer or being successful. I was always kind of on the fence about Hasan (still am actually), I like him because he is a strong leftist voice and maybe I should not be nitpicking him here. This is the first really dumb thing I've heard him say.

  I guess I see him, after seeing this, as similar to Joe Rogan for the left: He's actually generally sensible, he has a very loyal audience who mostly lines up with his political leaning, but he talks about complex issues without really understanding them (or apparently even trying to), which makes him vulnerable to saying or promoting total bullshit by accident. Case in point...

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  • goat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh, Hasan isn’t a leftist, he’s a tankie full and through. I like this video, it goes through his many views

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    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Holy shit

      I'm not watching this entire thing, but it's bad. I watched some sections and holy shit.

      The first random thing I happened upon was Hasan talking about trans issues, overtalking someone from the chat who disagreed with him and demanded evidence which was literally open on his screen at the time, called them transphobic (?), then banned a trans person who chimed in to say that yes they agreed and Hasan was doing a bad job arguing for trans issues, and then spent extensive time berating them on stream, wishing bad things on them in the future...

      I honestly can't even do it justice.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdCFycPw3fI&t=575s

      Holy crap man. I generally sort of discount people trying to find reasons to nitpick some leftist voice, because pretty much everyone has some kind of imperfection and whatever, it's fine, we don't need to constantly be shedding allies because fuck anyone who ever did something allegedly etc etc whatever. Anyone can have a bad day if they're on streams a ton of the time... but this is bad. And it makes me not surprised at all if he has the same type of super-confident wrong take on geopolitical issues.

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      • goat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You should catch up on the Ethan Klein and Hasan drama, it’s pretty damn juicy. I think when it comes to these online debate-bros, you should take note of how often they admit their mistakes and take accountability for their actions. I don’t think Hasan has ever admitted he was entirely wrong about an issue. When he does admit wrongdoing, it’s always some sort of catch or ‘but’ attached to it.

        Try not to judge society by them though, they don’t have much sway over the majority of the population.

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    • Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And this video for him generally being a shit creator:

      youtu.be/_TVSfHbpR6k

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