I’m not sure what sort of corruption you feel like others don’t have. Municipal dealings, old boy networks, quid pro quo, all the sort of corruption we think of that are biggest in Finland others also have but they also have the sort of blatant corruption and bribery that we think of as “proper” corruption. Fight for the top spot can be tough and we are currently in #2 behind Denmark, so that’s one Nordic country that’s ahead of us on Corruption Perception Index. So we aren’t uniquely uncorrupted or something, just that we have less of it than most others.
Corruption Perception Index isn’t susceptible to “it’s legal so we rank higher” bias. What could affect is that if some practises aren’t seen as corruption, but imo that’s common for many other places too. “Quid pro quo/old boy networks aren’t corruption, it’s just friends helping each other out”, “this isn’t corruption, it just smoothes the process”, “I’m just showing appreciation, I don’t expect them to do anything for me” etc are common excuses elsewhere too. I’d say more blatant the everyday corruption is, easier it is to excuse and not see the small favours and such as corruption.
And I don’t think we truly believe there’s no corruption in Finland. As with the happiness ranking, Finns love nothing more than to rush into to say how full of corruption we are and make a case that we’re actually really corrupt (forgetting that the ranking doesn’t say we don’t have corruption but rather that we have less of it than most).
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Heh, you’re doing a good job emphasizing what I’m worried about in Finland. Almost anyone you talk to about us not doing enough about corruption, you get a very defensive response. And arguments that include “Finns love to say”, followed by a strawman argument such as your “that we are very corrupt”.
When not being corrupted becomes such an important part of a national identity that suggesting we might be creeping towards more corruption is seen as an act against national cohesion, we are taking a dive into dangerous waters. In some decades we’ll run head-first into a rock wall with this. Corruption exists everywhere and if you ever manage to remove the last bit of corruption, more will simply appear. Once you get complacent and (even just mostly) stop fighting it, it will devour you.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
The ranking isn’t about who has no corruption but who has the least corruption. That’s all there is to it, really.
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
I’m glad you understood that at last.
Also, regarding Finland it’s showing incorrect numbers because our corruption is structured in a a very peculiar manner.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
I’ve been saying that the whole time. You’ve been fighting against windmills, sorry to say.
I don’t think that is supported by studies or reports. As much as we like to feel special, we really aren’t even in this.