Signal knows your entire connection graph. Who you talk to, at what time and how much. Storing literally all of the phone numbers/identities on their servers. I use SimpleX Chat where you have no identity that can be recorded. It is also easy to use, though it’s relatively new and in active production
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Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It does not matter if they are using AWS, the data is already encrypted by the user’s device by the time it arrives their servers.
jack@monero.town 1 year ago
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As everyone other said, Signal is NOT supposed to be an anonymous messaging service, but a private one. Anyone knows that the moment a service asks for their personal phone number, they can’t be anonymous. For the average Joe, Signal is the superior choice over WhatsApp, at least.
jack@monero.town 1 year ago
I think you don’t understand what “privacy” means. Being anonymous is the highest achievable level of privacy. There are levels before that, and Signal is at the bottom of the spectrum (WhatsApp is not even on the spectrum)
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Anonymity isn’t privacy, and privacy isn’t anonymity. I don’t know what you’re talking about.
SummerBreeze@monero.town 1 year ago
I disagree. There are a variety of ways your data can be leaked. For example, the person you’re talking to can be using a Google stock phone or Microsoft windows which may collect data. If this was a random XMPP name, this would provide more protection than your real phone number. Furthermore, there are academic studies proving the metadata can be gotten. Please see this for more information: simplifiedprivacy.com/signal-messenger-guide-to-a…
Asudox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Again, Signal is not supposed to be a anonymous messaging service. It is supposed to be a private one. You’re literally comparing a messaging protocol designed to be anonymous to a non-anonymous one. Sure, it would be great if XMPP was used overall, but unfortunately it isn’t. At least Signal developed a protocol that is starting to be pretty popular and is E2EE. You can use XMPP, but your average privacy user will use Signal over WhatsApp. Your argument literally is just about how XMPP is more anonymous than a protocol not even designed to be anonymous in the first place.