Do you really think a self hosting community has no idea how difficult and time consuming self hosting email is?
Comment on OT: The MS issue and what caused it
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 13 hours ago
I’m sure this day loss of productivity will have everyone hiring teams to run their email. I’m sure it’ll be cheaper and definitely more reliable 🙄
Y’all really don’t understand how the money flows or how expensive it is to run this shit.
StripedMonkey@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
False@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Yes, this is basically a bunch of home lab enthusiasts. There’s nothing wrong with that but doing it for even a small business of 50 people is extremely different in terms of requirements.
StripedMonkey@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Have you spent any time in these ‘home lab enthusiasts’ spaces? Nobody here is suggesting that you should go and self host email. Nobody is making it sound easy. In fact if you look at posts talking about email, almost every time the subject of email comes up you have a significant portion of the community saying it’s outright not worth self hosting email. It’s such a time consuming and opaque process to figure out why email isn’t being sent or received that few do so.
frongt@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Yeah, any time someone says “I’m thinking about hosting for a business” my answer is “run away screaming”. Or set up as a business yourself. Never ever provide for a business as an individual, especially not without being paid enough to insure yourself.
False@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
This community isn’t really the place for pragmatic takes on this kind of stuff. It’s largely homelab style hobbyists that have no idea about running anything for more than maybe 2-3 people (probably solo in most cases).
Unfortunately none of the actual professional communities from reddit seem to have active equivalents on Lemmy.
Buck@jlai.lu 13 hours ago
The focus is more about not all depending on the same third party, that has more and more outages as months pass.
The money flows from Microsoft to schools and universities to condition them them to think MS is the only option and then from Microsoft to non-tech people in deciding positions as bribes and favours so they decide to pay MS a fortune for shitty SAAS. It’s basically corruption used as an investment.
Oh, you meant that side of the money… Yeah, not expensive at all. There is a reason everybody can get email for free or for very little money if you need advanced functions and active service. And there is a reason the big providers are now basically running with whitelists only, because every idiot and their mom can run their own service. There is a reason why simple office solutions you can also get for free are nowadays –like so many other things– porvided as SAAS: to make money off idiots and paid morons.