There is no ‘Trek standards’. It’s a fallacy. The same Trek standard you point to also created Code of Honor, Threshhold, Twisted, The Last Outpost and plenty more godawful examples of writing. Even if you did want to compare it to a ‘Trek Standard’, it’s very disingenuous to hold up the movie franchise to the TV franchise. You’d need to compare it to other Trek movies of which there are good and bad.
But the standard of writing is also completely irrelevant. The writing doesn’t need to be good, or bad, for me to give things the benefit of the doubt. The point of me doing that is that what happened happened. Those events are canon now. I could focus on ever minute detail, thereby dragging myself and everyone else into a pit of infinite misery, bitching and moaning, or I could just make logical assumptions and fill in the gaps. Sometimes those gaps are bigger than others but it’s never ‘difficult’ to give something the benefit of the doubt. I just be an adult, accept the new canon, and then find the way that makes sense with the information previously established.
Of course. It’s still Star Trek. I’d just recommend giving Discovery two seasons. If you don’t like it by the third then you won’t like it. It starts off rough, like a lot of Trek, but rapidly finds its footing. Lower Decks started strong because it’s an animated comedy. Hard to fuck that up. Strange New Worlds also had the benefit of using Discovery Season 2 as it’s ‘backdoor pilot season’ so they knew their footing from the get go too. Picard Season 1 and 2 struggle but have their own interesting stories. Season 3 is a work of fucking art. Short Treks are fun for fleshing out the world a little.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
There is no ‘Trek standards’. It’s a fallacy. The same Trek standard you point to also created Code of Honor, Threshhold, Twisted, The Last Outpost and plenty more godawful examples of writing. Even if you did want to compare it to a ‘Trek Standard’, it’s very disingenuous to hold up the movie franchise to the TV franchise. You’d need to compare it to other Trek movies of which there are good and bad.
But the standard of writing is also completely irrelevant. The writing doesn’t need to be good, or bad, for me to give things the benefit of the doubt. The point of me doing that is that what happened happened. Those events are canon now. I could focus on ever minute detail, thereby dragging myself and everyone else into a pit of infinite misery, bitching and moaning, or I could just make logical assumptions and fill in the gaps. Sometimes those gaps are bigger than others but it’s never ‘difficult’ to give something the benefit of the doubt. I just be an adult, accept the new canon, and then find the way that makes sense with the information previously established.
AlexisFR@jlai.lu 1 year ago
What you say us very true! And I said that liking the Kelvin movies, except Beyond that left a bad taste in my mouth.
Should I try watching what came after 2016? I head bad things about Discovery, but good things about SNW and Lower Decks
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Of course. It’s still Star Trek. I’d just recommend giving Discovery two seasons. If you don’t like it by the third then you won’t like it. It starts off rough, like a lot of Trek, but rapidly finds its footing. Lower Decks started strong because it’s an animated comedy. Hard to fuck that up. Strange New Worlds also had the benefit of using Discovery Season 2 as it’s ‘backdoor pilot season’ so they knew their footing from the get go too. Picard Season 1 and 2 struggle but have their own interesting stories. Season 3 is a work of fucking art. Short Treks are fun for fleshing out the world a little.