Competitions are still subjective.
Also the competitions is “in the current year (as defined by the contest rules) create a song that is better than your competitors”
Just because it’s their day to day job doesn’t mean it isn’t a competition.
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iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year agoWhat? This is their real, day-to-day job. This isn’t a competition, in the sense which you describe.
Their managers submit their works (read: the stuff they made at their day to day job) from the calendar year, which are reviewed in private by the judges.
If the goal was ‘you have X time to make Y song within these parameters’, you’d have a direct comparison but it is not, and you do not.
BURN@lemmy.world 1 year ago
iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Than, by your logic, the highest charting song per genre out of the ones submitted would be the only ones which are awarded. This is demonstrably not the case with such awards programs.
BURN@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Except that’s not the arbitrary criteria set by the competition, which is the whole point of this discussion. Any competition can set an arbitrary set of rules. The Grammys are a completion, and as such can set any arbitrary rules they would like.
iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You are fixated on the arbitrary nature of the rulesetting process as if that justifies a nonsensical rule.
Which brings us full circle to the original point: you may as well ban anyone using any software at all to produce music. A flat ban on AI models is premature and will age like milk.
Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 year ago
If they make an AI song they are allowed to sell it and people are allowed to listen to it but, that particular song just isn’t eligible for the competition that is The Grammy.
When artist make music they WANT to win a Grammy but it is not a REQUIRED part of business model. Most music produced in the world do not win Grammies and still able to make money.
iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, but we aren’t talked about songs which are not entered in the Grammys.
We are talking about the Grammys laying down shortsighted rules to protect their image, not to progress the medium in any meaningful way.
Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 year ago
That is a different set of arguments than the ones you started with.
This is more about wether it’s good or not for music to ban AI from the Grammies.
I think it’s good. I don’t think AI is art and I think it’s theft. The only reason AI music is able to exist is because it is stealing other people’s hard work.
Artists work their entire life to develop unique sounds that are influenced by their personal experiences and tastes.
Then a AI techbro (but more likely a multi billion dollar corporation) steals it without the artists permission and without compensation.
The goal of AI enthusiasts is to break down artists rights fast enough so that proper regulation don’t have time to set in. Because people like you despise art and artist. Every time I get involved in these discussion you can feel the pure contempt and the ones that can’t keep the mask on properly gloat at the brazen theft they are doing.
In order for AI to be good for art it needs to be regulated and since it is not regulated organizations like the Grammies need to step in and protect the artists they have represented for decades.
But feel free to cry and piss about how unfair it is to have rules for things.
iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I didn’t say enything about unfair, nor did i cry or piss.
All I’ve said about AI is that they are simply banning what they don’t understand.
Everyone is having very emotional and visceral reactions to AI tools, meanwhile these tools are not even remotely close to mimicking or surpassing human performance.
This is another repeat of what happened 40 years ago when electronica and synths made their way into mainstream music.